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tophatcat
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
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I dont think you understand.
How can you set boundaries when they ignore you and your commands and have ZERO respect?
You can only set boundaries if people acknowledge them and adhere/respect them. |
Simple: learn how to teach. |
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One of the most important aspects of teaching is classroom management.
Learn how to teach! |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| tophatcat wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
I dont think you understand.
How can you set boundaries when they ignore you and your commands and have ZERO respect?
You can only set boundaries if people acknowledge them and adhere/respect them. |
Simple: learn how to teach. |
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One of the most important aspects of teaching is classroom management.
Learn how to teach! |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| tophatcat wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
I dont think you understand.
How can you set boundaries when they ignore you and your commands and have ZERO respect?
You can only set boundaries if people acknowledge them and adhere/respect them. |
Simple: learn how to teach. |
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One of the most important aspects of teaching is classroom management.
Learn how to teach! |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
Well, with that *sparkling* attitude, I can't possibly imagine where you're going wrong! |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Perceptioncheck wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| tophatcat wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
I dont think you understand.
How can you set boundaries when they ignore you and your commands and have ZERO respect?
You can only set boundaries if people acknowledge them and adhere/respect them. |
Simple: learn how to teach. |
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One of the most important aspects of teaching is classroom management.
Learn how to teach! |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
Well, with that *sparkling* attitude, I can't possibly imagine where you're going wrong! |
As you can see I dont take BS. Hence why im having a hard time dealing / accepting the disrespect and bad behavior of the student I teach.
I will be having a sit down with my Korean teacher and tell her things MUST change as in she better get them to not be loud and disrupt my class when Im teaching, as in when I tell them not to throw stuff across them room and they do it anyway and laugh in my face, or as in making them not get up out of their seat every 5 minutes. If this stuff cant be fixed they can look for a new teacher. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
As you can see I dont take BS. Hence why im having a hard time dealing / accepting the disrespect and bad behavior of the student I teach.
I will be having a sit down with my Korean teacher and tell her things MUST change as in she better get them to not be loud and disrupt my class when Im teaching, as in when I tell them not to throw stuff across them room and they do it anyway and laugh in my face, or as in making them not get up out of their seat every 5 minutes. If this stuff cant be fixed they can look for a new teacher. |
Better book your ticket back now, best to be prepared. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
As you can see I dont take BS. Hence why im having a hard time dealing / accepting the disrespect and bad behavior of the student I teach.
I will be having a sit down with my Korean teacher and tell her things MUST change as in she better get them to not be loud and disrupt my class when Im teaching, as in when I tell them not to throw stuff across them room and they do it anyway and laugh in my face, or as in making them not get up out of their seat every 5 minutes. If this stuff cant be fixed they can look for a new teacher. |
Better book your ticket back now, best to be prepared. |
I aint wasting money if I can avoid it. I must stay till atleast december to pay my bills and cover my expenses.
I can also retrain the mind to not give a sh**. This doesnt really appeal to me as the students that cared and wanted to learn would suffer. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
Those things are earned, not automatic. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
Those things are earned, not automatic. |
Not where I come
Where I come from you respect your elders.
Where I come from you respect people in authoritative positions ie teachers.
Hell I was raised to respect EVERYONE and treat everyone how I would want to be treated.
I feel sorry for you and your parents and where ever you come from.
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
Those things are earned, not automatic. |
Not where I come brah.
Where I come from you respect your elders.
Where I come from you respect people in authoritative positions ie teachers.
Hell I was raised to respect EVERYONE and treat everyone how I would want to be treated.
I feel sorry for your and your parents and where ever you came from. |
I'm guessing most of the teachers you've had in your life know how to teach. It's not easy, and it takes time. Giving up and blaming it on the kids being bad is not going to put you on the road to effective classroom management. This is something you need to find in yourself. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
Those things are earned, not automatic. |
Not where I come brah.
Where I come from you respect your elders.
Where I come from you respect people in authoritative positions ie teachers.
Hell I was raised to respect EVERYONE and treat everyone how I would want to be treated.
I feel sorry for your and your parents and where ever you came from. |
I'm guessing most of the teachers you've had in your life know how to teach. It's not easy, and it takes time. Giving up and blaming it on the kids being bad is not going to put you on the road to effective classroom management. This is something you need to find in yourself. |
Lol your funny.
I know how to teach.
I actually had some teachers that DIDNT know how to teach. Or didnt teach that great.
This had ZERO influence on me showing them respect.
Like I said, me and you come from two different backgrounds.
Everyone gets respect from me AUTOMATIC as you like to call it, until they do something to lose it. ie disrespecting me or someone else. |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Most rural towns don't have hakwons with native speakers, but some have Korean teachers who teach English-hakwons.
| Warhammer820 wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
I dont think you understand.
How can you set boundaries when they ignore you and your commands and have ZERO respect?
You can only set boundaries if people acknowledge them and adhere/respect them. |
You've got to start it from Day 1. There's a reason why you're told in teacher's college back home "Don't smile until Christmas!"
As for setting boundaries that is simple enough. Enforce them when the kids step over the line. You can't worry about "what if the director fires me?"
Because if he supports the kids over you, that's not a place you want to work at.
Now yes the kids are his bread and butter so as to speak. But if he's not willing to make an example of 1 or 2 bad ones then he's not what I would ever think of as a good boss.
I had two kids kicked out of my first hakwon for not listening and refusing to do any work. The boss's wife basically handed the parents their refund and told them goodbye. The funny thing was that one actually came back later (actually they sent the grandmother) to ask the boss to reconsider and let the student back in. Although that might have had something to do with the fact that our school was only one of three in the town and the oldest...and the only one with a foreign teacher.
When the student came back (16 year old girl) butter wouldn't melt in her mouth...180 degree reversal in attitude. |
Do rural towns have hagwons? |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Newbies are cute. |
Cute? I didnt think they lets teens over.... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Warhammer820 wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
I dont think you understand.
How can you set boundaries when they ignore you and your commands and have ZERO respect?
You can only set boundaries if people acknowledge them and adhere/respect them. |
You've got to start it from Day 1. There's a reason why you're told in teacher's college back home "Don't smile until Christmas!"
As for setting boundaries that is simple enough. Enforce them when the kids step over the line. You can't worry about "what if the director fires me?"
Because if he supports the kids over you, that's not a place you want to work at.
Now yes the kids are his bread and butter so as to speak. But if he's not willing to make an example of 1 or 2 bad ones then he's not what I would ever think of as a good boss.
I had two kids kicked out of my first hakwon for not listening and refusing to do any work. The boss's wife basically handed the parents their refund and told them goodbye. The funny thing was that one actually came back later (actually they sent the grandmother) to ask the boss to reconsider and let the student back in. Although that might have had something to do with the fact that our school was only one of three in the town and the oldest...and the only one with a foreign teacher.
When the student came back (16 year old girl) butter wouldn't melt in her mouth...180 degree reversal in attitude. |
Do rural towns have hagwons? |
Yep...4 in my current one of out (at most 5000 people) |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| Perceptioncheck wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| tophatcat wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
I dont think you understand.
How can you set boundaries when they ignore you and your commands and have ZERO respect?
You can only set boundaries if people acknowledge them and adhere/respect them. |
Simple: learn how to teach. |
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One of the most important aspects of teaching is classroom management.
Learn how to teach! |
How about I teach you something? Sit down class is in session.
You need atleast one of two things in order to "manage"
1) Authority
2) Respect
Without those there is no "management" |
Well, with that *sparkling* attitude, I can't possibly imagine where you're going wrong! |
As you can see I dont take BS. Hence why im having a hard time dealing / accepting the disrespect and bad behavior of the student I teach.
I will be having a sit down with my Korean teacher and tell her things MUST change as in she better get them to not be loud and disrupt my class when Im teaching, as in when I tell them not to throw stuff across them room and they do it anyway and laugh in my face, or as in making them not get up out of their seat every 5 minutes. If this stuff cant be fixed they can look for a new teacher. |
If the students are disrespecting you, you are taking BS! |
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