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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Calendar you said Korea shouldn't observe Halloween.
I'll ask again, what authority do you claim to have that would put you in a position to tell Koreans what they should or shouldn't do?
You have called others on this forum hypocrites.
You have also said that foreigners should not tell Koreans what is best for Korea. Yet you a foreigner are doing just that.
Do you know what the word hypocrite means?
So, again I'll ask, what gives you the right to say that Koreans should not observe this or that?
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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You really have a problem you know that. I re-read my post and was not doing:
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You have also said that foreigners should not tell Koreans what is best for Korea. Yet you a foreigner are doing just that.
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I stated a personal opinion that in no way told the Koreans what is best for them. Your distortion is due to your great dislike for me. My comment was:
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| Hallowe'en is still not observed here nor should it be. |
There is nothing in that comment that depicts what you claim. You should ask yourself-- Why it should? Why should Korea import a western festival just to please a few westerners who miss it?
People are free not to like something American or western. And they are free to express that dislike in a proper manner. Koreans are certainly free to adopt it but it would be sad if they did. |
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder why you and others think Korea should adopt western ways and cultural practices? Korea isn't western and has their own cultural practices. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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interesting thread this has turned out to be...  |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Just like everyone else around the world, Koreans adopt other holidays so they have an excuse to sell stuff and get drunk.
Think Cinco De Mayo and St. Paddy's Day and Oktoberfest. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Just like everyone else around the world, Koreans adopt other holidays so they have an excuse to sell stuff and get drunk.
Think Cinco De Mayo and St. Paddy's Day and Oktoberfest. |
But this is not one of those lightweight holidays...This is a major Korean holiday with significant historical importance. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| calendar wrote: |
| I wonder why you and others think Korea should adopt western ways and cultural practices? Korea isn't western and has their own cultural practices. |
They could celebrate it if they want, but you went so far as to say that they shouldn't.
They don't have to, but don't tell them what they should or should not do. |
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe I didn't write my post the way I wanted to and you guys are just taking it wrong. But then on this board anyone who hints at criticizing America needs to watch out. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Halloween isn't exclusively American. I celebrated it in England. |
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Halloween isn't exclusively American. I celebrated it in England |
Don't care and I already know that and I know its supposed origin (before you continue to tell me the obvious). In this country it is the American companies who are pushing it on the Korean people.
All it is is a bad corporate attempt to make more money when they could be pushing things special to the Korean people and accomplish the same thing and building a bridge instead of demeaning a culture.
By the way, Christmas is only a national holiday because the RCC got here early enough to influence a lot of people. When I first came to this land, Christmas was ignored by most people and almost all stores. it was refreshing. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| carleverson wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
Just like everyone else around the world, Koreans adopt other holidays so they have an excuse to sell stuff and get drunk.
Think Cinco De Mayo and St. Paddy's Day and Oktoberfest. |
But this is not one of those lightweight holidays...This is a major Korean holiday with significant historical importance. |
Meh, so are Canada Day and Independence Day in North America, yet both revolve around a similar meme: selling stuff and getting drunk. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Halloween isn't exclusively American. I celebrated it in England |
Don't care and I already know that and I know its supposed origin (before you continue to tell me the obvious). In this country it is the American companies who are pushing it on the Korean people.
All it is is a bad corporate attempt to make more money when they could be pushing things special to the Korean people and accomplish the same thing and building a bridge instead of demeaning a culture.
By the way, Christmas is only a national holiday because the RCC got here early enough to influence a lot of people. When I first came to this land, Christmas was ignored by most people and almost all stores. it was refreshing. |
1. It may be obvious, but from your postings, it seems that you only have the hate on the Americans here. You make it seem as though it's an American holiday.
2. Who cares? Let people celebrate what they want! If my students want to make a haunted house, let them! If I want to celebrate Chuseok with my Korean friends, it's my choice! Who are YOU to tell people what they shouldn't celebrate?
3. I'm through responding to anything that you post on Dave's. You are a troll, misinformed, and full of hot air of the variety that often comes out of my dog's anus. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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This is my favorite Korean holiday. I love the story that surrounds it.
It reminds me that Korea is a very old country with an ancient culture. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:14 am Post subject: |
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I like this holiday, too. I had a great day not working. I am not expected to buy gifts or do anything, neither are Koreans.
I have learned the significance of this holiday from listening to my Korean friends, from the good folk at Wikipedia, and from whatever links Google provides.
Anyone who claims one holiday is more important than another is being ridiculous, kind of akin to arguing that Jesus could smoke Budda in a Nascar race.
My point is that some holidays are fun, others are more serious. For most of us Halloween is just a fun holiday with candy and costumes.
Calandar your idea that American influence is pushing fun holidays like Christmas and Halloween on Koreans maybe true. Bah humbug to you. I am also interested in what you think of Americas role in Liberation Day, perhaps that shouldn't be celebrated because America had something to do with that, too. |
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