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A Lesson for E2s...
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the article, migrant workers can only change employers three times. That would be nice for E-2 visa holders, too. It would be like one get out of jail free card. Land a bad employer, you could get one more chance. Seems fair enough.
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earthquakez



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say give Korean Immigration credit for attempting to balance out some of the difficulties they put E-2 visa holders through. For example we can now leave Korea without having to get a re-entry stamp, single or multiple, provided we come back within a year.

We only need to have our alien registration card which acts as a defacto re entry permit. That's proof Korean Immigration can look beyond revenue raising as they have undoubtedly lost money from this. Good for them, can't say the same of the UK govt who seek to extract money in as many ways as they can from everybody in the country whether citizen, resident or visitor.

The real thing holding back more developments towards greater security for E-2 ers in terms of longer visas like in Japan is the indisputable fact that public schools and hagwons are still recruting young, first time workers in any field to teach English in Korea.

No offence to you intended, especially the decent and dedicated young uns who not only want money but also care about how they earn that money, but as long as the under 30s with little to no full time/even longer hours part time job experience in the field of teaching or the English language continue to be recruited as the predominant group on E-2s, the Korean Govt/Immigration will never extend the visas to what they are in Japan (eg 3 yrs after the initial one) for NETS.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r122925 wrote:
isisaredead wrote:
calendar wrote:
I thought for sure some people would be interested in this decision and how it would affect E2s.


how exactly does it affect us?


Well, it doesn't really affect anyone since the court denied the petition. If the court had upheld the petition it could have, in theory, allowed E2 holders the right to change employers without permission.


Bascially there will always be restrictions on foreign labor movements within the country. That is true of most countries. The level of restriction does vary and this may be something that could be improved in Korea.

Remember however that the E2 visa, like most EMPLOYMENT VISAS for foreign labour is SPONSORED. Without a sponsor, you get NO visa at all. That will and should come with some restrictions.

The example posted here on many occasion is Japan. Lots of people mistake the Japanese system for complete visa ownership which allows foreign teachers to change jobs at will and go about the country as they please. This is not quite accurate. FTs there still need to fill out paper work and get the sponsor transered. This is more streamlined than Korea but it is not visa ownership in the way some people seem to think, read: I should have the same rights and privileges as I do as CITIZEN in my own country. That is not going to happen.

So streamlining the system would be a better battlehorse to ride than shooting for visa ownership.

Also, over the years the E2 HAS been rendered more flexible. the multiple re-entry issue noted earlier in the thread is a good example of this. The way they handle second work locations has also been streamlined.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a lesson the OP might wish to learn:

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Malicious online commentator fined

A Seoul district court ordered a man, 47, to pay a 2 million won fine for posting unconfirmed malicious rumors about TV personality Lee Kyung-sil on the Internet.

The man, surnamed Lee, has been indicted on charges of defamation with dissemination of false facts on the Internet.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
According to ontheway some foreign workers (E-2's and the like) are legally allowed to be independent contractors.


That's his opinion, but has he ever provided proof that can be the case?

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Certain hakwon chains like CDI(?) hire you as independent contractors. There were also a couple of guys on these forums saying that they also hire some people as ICs as well. Also a few people saying that they've worked as ICs as well. As for the legality of it it seems that the lawsuit over it is still before the courts.
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