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[calendar]

[koreatimes]

If they radio ahead, only law abiding people would stop (in the sense they recognize a smaller wrong and are willing to deal with it). Someone who doesn't care will floor it and try to get away from the cops, especially if they are a repeat offender. They would rather chance it than go to jail again.

[ttompatz]

[calendar]

[koreatimes]

[TheUrbanMyth]

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[koreatimes]

This is a new "moral high ground" form of trolling that calendar is doing here

It doesn't matter the situation, there is no need to take a stand in his mind. Just walk away, in debt and starving. However, DON'T EVER LET YOUR BOSS STARVE, be considerate and give notice after they stop paying you and start giving you more hours to teach. Running from that would just be barbaric now, wouldn't it?

[nero]

Exactly. The slave must always think about his master.
Wait! New conclusion! 'calender' is a time traveller from the past, hence his name and odd ideas.

'WE ARE NOT ALL the BOURGEOISIE goddamit!!'

[PatrickGHBusan]

Lets be CLEAR here:

1- Pulling a Runner is an OPTION. It is not morally wrong nor should it be the first resort.

2- The use of the word slavery in any connection to E2 teachers is out of place, sad and shows a great deal of ignorance.

Not ONE E2 is a slave in Korea. E2s are FOREIGN WORKERS on SPONSORED VISA. This is the case for most foreign workers the world over.

As an E2 teacher you CAN leave at ANY TIME. You CAN QUIT at ANY TIME.

You may require a letter of release but not getting one DOES NOT PREVENT YOU from LEAVING.

You can still LEAVE KOREA and return later with a NEW VISA.

So there is nothing remotely close or linked with slavery here. Get over yourselves (those people who throw out such idiotic terms).

[Mr Lee's Monkey]

Last Thursday I learned my employer of two months has not paid into health care or pension despite it being in the contract and promises that he would. I called the NPS on Friday morning using this number - 02 2176 8719 and got a kind and helpful guy who spoke awesome English. Good Luck Gorf

[calendar]

You alll take the cake. there is no legal ground to support pulling a runner. Terminate a contract does not mean you disappear without giving notice.

But then you all will read it as you see fit, in your favor and you could care less about the damage you do to innocent people. It makes you worse than the Korean employer you claim is ripping you off.

There is always 2 sides to the story and alas, on Dave's only one side is always given which most members blindly jump to support without any evidence whatsoever. How wrong to condemn and accuse people who cannot defend themselves, then to support wrongful acts.

This place is more of a kangaroo court than a place to discuss issues. You have a contract, follow it. Runners are not in the contract. It doesn't matter if the Korean employer follows it or not, if they don't and you do then you rare innocent, if you don't then you are as guilty as you claim the Korean employer is.

Your words do show me that you do not belong in a classroom for your concern for your students is lacking. You do not see the consequences of your actions because you only think of yourselves and that selfishness blinds you. So does the demand for more money, more benefits and so on.

I can see why teachers in the west have it so rough now, because the mindset is not one for teaching but 'I want to get mine' just like the athletes of today claim. Is it really that tough for you to give your notice and be responsible members of society?

Is it really that difficult to follow the terms you agreed to follow when you placed your signature on the contract? Keeping your word is more important than you think. Do you really think you have accomplished anything by stooping to the level you claim the Korean employer has?

Get some honor, some character, some integrity instep of stepping into the gutter to get whatyou want.

[calendar]

Oh and I like morality. It saves one from a lot of trouble.

One thing to keep in mind, your position is that you are demanding that the Koreans be moral yet you refuse to be moral yourselves. Don't expect the Korean employer to do what you refuse to do.

You really have no argument. If you want the Koreans to do things right, then you have to do the right thing as well and you cannot wait for the other person to do it or it will never get done.

One caveat, Not everyone will be moral or do the right thing no matter how good you are but that doesn't excuse you from being moral or doing the righth thing. (example: How you treat me.)

[jvalmer]

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[northway]