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Deranged Ranger



Joined: 13 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I said it was the result of thier actions that screwed me over, carried out by the other teachers. The bosses never once did.


But earlier, you said:

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Knew I was being threatened by the old director


The "old director" implies BOSS, not other teachers. Is that what you meant? If so, you don't tell stories very well. I have to sift through your words to come up with a plausible scenario. You have put in so many loopholes, yes, it is a wonder why I am still trying to patiently understand it.

It's unfolding into a completely different scenario than the one you originally projected (which was vague at best).
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cert43



Joined: 17 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your not supposed to do that. Shocked say someone "cheated" on thier taxes..or whatever.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she left because of threats, she didn't have to bring up 11th month leaving or cheating.

That's like arguing about Clinton judging him based on what he did with Monica. If someone threatened her, that should be all the evidence needed. She just confused the issue by playing 2 strong sympathy cards, then brought this up.

If someone told you about a problem with their hagwon and they said, "Long story short, they screwed me over by the cheating", what would you conclude? That they cheated the person telling you this or that there were two people having an affair at the hagwon?

Oh well, she got 4 more months of severance than I would have. Good on her.
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jamasian



Joined: 01 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Personal Problems Reply with quote

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jamasian wrote:
Sir, it seems like you involved yourself in personal problems so it's still wrong for you. Why quit in the 11th month?


How am I involving myself in personal problems?

I supported the new boss.

I also left out a few details.

If a woman is verbally abused shes stayed with the guy for 11 months, would you say, "Come on you were already there for 11, you can hack another month" I was being verbally abused by the staff and threatened physically by the old boss. I wanted to get the heck out of dodge, simple as that.


Again. You don't need to involve yourself with cheating bosses, co-workers, etc. You made their problems into yours. You have not once complained about the actual job. Seems to me like you threw yourself into drama risking all the ill feelings eventually shown toward you.

I DO NOT go for abuse of any kind. Like I said before you know in 3 months or less if a situation is no good. If a woman is verbally abused by her boyfriend and does not leave him, sorry to say but she's stupid. Same goes for a man. But yours is a totally different situation.

Knowing how people feel about not only cheating but adultery, you decide it's fine to openly befriend the situation. You could have just avoided the subject and situation all together. Especially since even if someone is a cheater they will give a lot of crap to someone they find out is doing it.
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Deranged Ranger



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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c) you started the whle thing buy saying I was stupid to have quit in the 11th month


How did I magically know that without you informing of us of that first? You apparently don't get it. Also, I wasn't the one that said you were stupid. Someone else did. I was trying to establish whether or not you leaving at the 11th month was due to the school's actions or yours. You have clearly demonstrated it was 100% you and not anything to do with 11 month firings. Consider yourself lucky for getting 4/12 (1/3) more of severance than you were owed after you didn't collect on 7/12 when you signed the new contract. You might have been luckier if you stayed 12/12 but leaving with 11/12 isn't so bad.

You are a man worried about threats from another man where there was cheating. I am wondering if you had something for the woman yourself then.

That would explain worrying about threats.

You painted a picture more plausible of a woman being thrown in the middle of a cheating episode and a jealous director leaving. I could see how this could happen. They come back and confront the woman.

But a guy? What was your gripe? If you are a guy, you had to have done something to get the attention of this old director. They don't just sniff out male teachers to threaten.

What went down between you and the old director to make them want to come back and pose a threat? Are you intentionally leaving out details to get more sympathy from others? If you don't tell use basic bits of a story, then we aren't going to know. We would have to assume things, like I assumed you were female.

Unless a moderator deems it off topic, I am curious now what happened. A male director pushing himself on a female teacher to control some personal vendetta is one thing. Was the old director even male?

So far I see you worried about some interaction with an old director. Why? Where is the connection?


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koreatimes



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamasian,

Everything he is bringing up is other people's fault (it wasn't his teaching, it was the parents). He is the lone victim. Leave him alone so he has no one else to blame but HIMSELF for HIS actions. He's got to learn sometime.
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Deranged Ranger



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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koreatimes



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am done then too (so any moderator observing knows). This person deleted their posts. It's a personal matter now for that person to sort out.
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Deranged Ranger



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deranged Ranger wrote:

No, I never had anything to sort out. I deleted said posts because I am not interested in the trolling. Again, if you are worried about any moderators looking, you may wish to delete your trolling comments.

I reiterate for the OP and anyone else, My original comments still stands for this thread. There is nothing wrong with quitting for any reason if you give proper notice. Some clearly disagree.


I'm the OP. Wow this thread was totally derailed. I didn't follow much of what you guys were going back and forth about. I KNOW there is nothing wrong with quitting if I give proper notice. I would rather stick it out for 4 months and get my bonus and airfare.....was just looking for advice on how not to go insane in the meantime.

The job is not that difficult, it's just a combo of the fact that I've been doing it too long and can see the light at the end of the tunnel so I'm becoming apathetic. Anyway, got a couple posts of good advice on the first page....thanks guys.
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koreatimes



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would rather stick it out for 4 months and get my bonus and airfare


That's good news. After 12 months, you are legally owed these benefits. This is what I was trying to "protect" in the thread.
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Deranged Ranger



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Deranged Ranger



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you say that you had been there for 4 years?

If so your severance is not an issue you get prorated severance if you've been with a company more than a year. so you are entitled to 8/12ths of your severence amount if you decide to quit now.

Also someone may want to confirm if I am right on this ( perhaps Koreatimes as he seems to be up on the laws) But if you've completed the initial years contract, and they havent sent you home yet, Pretty sure they owe you that flight home regardless of when in the (4th contract) you have quit.
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