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MoneyMike
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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Yeah UrbanMyth, you're right, but only for extremely serious crimes. Having extra-jurisdictional laws (not sure what else to call them) for smokin a j? That's just silly.
But yeah, I'm curious to see how this will all play out. Wish he'd owned up to it a bit more. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Bizarre.
Perhaps GD also had a hair test? Could he claim a false positive since he is a fake blonde? |
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weso1
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm curious how someone that thin who spends his time constantly exercising (dance and dance practice) could still have pot in his system after two months from just one joint... |
I feel like you've answered your own question here... |
Not trying to flame you, but Steelrails has a valid point here.
THC is usually stored in fat cells. So a thinner person with a higher metabolism will burn it off much faster than someone with a higher fat percentage.
Also, exercise detoxes the body of foreign chemicals.
So a thin person working out and sweating a lot should burn through any residual THC in just a matter of days actually. Especially after one joint. Even moderate smokers (2-4 times a month) can usually get clean in a month if they go cold turkey. Daily users with higher body fat percentages take about 60 days.
I know a teacher in Korea that was in Thailand earlier this year. He was a pretty heavy toker back in the states, but gave it up here. He went to Phuket and blazed his head off for a week straight, after years of being clean. Once back in Korea, he hit the gym hard, exercising twice daily for about a month and drank a gallon of water a day. Even still, he had a body fat percentage in the high teens - low twenties. He passed not 1, not 2, but 3 drug tests before he took his official one for his E2 visa.
So he got clean after a blazing up a blunt or two a day for a week.
Of course, that doesn't count hair samples. They can go back 6 months or more. I imagine that must have been how G dragon got caught - or he lied about how much and how often he had been chatting with Mary Jane. |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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he should of gone to jail!
not fair really, considering so many other celebrities, non celebrities have all gone to jail for smoking.
the prosecutors decided to not press charges because they felt he only smoked a little!
that's BS! in korea you go to jail for even smoking in amsterdam!
you go to jail if you knew someone was smoking and you didn't report it,
you go to jail for possession, you go to jail for inhaling, you go to jail for a urine test which came back positive!
what the prosecutors meant to say was..
I decided to not press charges because G dragons manager came down to our office with a FAT WHITE ENVELOPE FULL OF 50's! and we have decided to drop the case!
first Daesung for the murder, and now g dragon with the dope..
you might say it's been very profitable year for us at the prosecutors office! |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreadays wrote: |
he should of gone to jail!
not fair really, considering so many other celebrities, non celebrities have all gone to jail for smoking.
the prosecutors decided to not press charges because they felt he only smoked a little!
that's BS! in korea you go to jail for even smoking in amsterdam!
you go to jail if you knew someone was smoking and you didn't report it,
you go to jail for possession, you go to jail for inhaling, you go to jail for a urine test which came back positive!
what the prosecutors meant to say was..
I decided to not press charges because G dragons manager came down to our office with a FAT WHITE ENVELOPE FULL OF 50's! and we have decided to drop the case!
first Daesung for the murder, and now g dragon with the dope..
you might say it's been very profitable year for us at the prosecutors office! |
Interesting points, but this is actually a big step forward on the view of pot in this country.
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| �I smoked a cigarette that someone had given me at a club,� G-Dragon said. �The smell was somewhat different from that of a regular cigarette so I was slightly suspicious that it was marijuana, but it is true that I smoked it,� he said. |
While it is obvious he is lying about the when and how much, he has admitted to smoking it...and gotten away with it.
This is a telling message, especially to his young fans.
I am surprised they let him get away with such blazing honesty. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| weso1 wrote: |
| or he lied about how much and how often he had been chatting with Mary Jane. |
Now that's just a ludicrous theory! |
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MollyBloom
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| blazing honesty. |
heh |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Great, maybe it'll make his "music" better. |
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MollyBloom
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| I was talking about it with a co-K today (40 yr old man) and he said he didn't think it was a big deal, considering how people abuse alcohol in this country. However, it's a serious offense in Korea, so people are likely to get upset about it. He's a pretty chill guy, so perhaps he's an exception. Most people seem to be more upset about Steve Jobs passing away. |
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declan74
Joined: 06 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: |
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I've never understood authoritys negative attitude towards the marijuana plant.
Alcohol and tobacco are legal and are much more dangerous.
Marijuana has proven medical benefits and is simply a weed which some people smoke occasionally.
Why jail time and criminal records for smoking a natural herb that hurts no one and benefits many people with terminal illnesses etc???
It doesn't add up! |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| declan74 wrote: |
I've never understood authoritys negative attitude towards the marijuana plant.
Alcohol and tobacco are legal and are much more dangerous.
Marijuana has proven medical benefits and is simply a weed which some people smoke occasionally.
Why jail time and criminal records for smoking a natural herb that hurts no one and benefits many people with terminal illnesses etc???
It doesn't add up! |
One reason...if young men smoke it...they won't want to go to war.
But give them booze and cigarettes...let's get ready to rumble.
Some of the countries that most vilify the plant are the most aggressive with their recruitment(conscription) efforts...very active militaries. |
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declan74
Joined: 06 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| declan74 wrote: |
I've never understood authoritys negative attitude towards the marijuana plant.
Alcohol and tobacco are legal and are much more dangerous.
Marijuana has proven medical benefits and is simply a weed which some people smoke occasionally.
Why jail time and criminal records for smoking a natural herb that hurts no one and benefits many people with terminal illnesses etc???
It doesn't add up! |
One reason...if young men smoke it...they won't want to go to war.
But give them booze and cigarettes...let's get ready to rumble.
Some of the countries that most vilify the plant are the most aggressive with their recruitment(conscription) efforts...very active militaries. |
Good point. All marijuana does in most people is relax them,make them chill and friendly and a pleasure to be around.Nothing wrong with that.Helps cancer patients and people with chronic illness and pain and with diseases such as glaucoma.
Jail and a criminal record for burning a natural herb while drunks are free to buy and drink as much alcohol as they want and kill people through violence and drunk driving etc??? Is there any need??? |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| declan74 wrote: |
Why jail time and criminal records for smoking a natural herb that hurts no one and benefits many people with terminal illnesses etc??? |
Potheads always argue that marijuana is safe. But I bet you also know some burnout who isn't all there anymore. Fact of the matter is:
Compared responses from the marijuana users at age 29 with data from age-matched abstainers, researchers found that abstainers had an overall higher level of educational attainment, better health, greater life satisfaction, and a lower rate of other drug use.
In contrast, those who had reported a relatively high level of marijuana use at age 13 fared significantly worse than all other groups on overall health and yearly earnings.
People underestimate the harm marijuana can cause on many aspects of their lives, the study authors said.
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Smoking marijuana can cause significant health problems. Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, of which 60 are cannabinoids. Smoking a marijuana cigarette deposits about three to five times more tar into the lungs than one filtered tobacco cigarette.
Consequently, regular marijuana smokers suffer from many of the same health problems as tobacco smokers, such as chronic coughing and wheezing, chest colds, and chronic bronchitis. In fact, studies show that smoking three to four joints per day causes at least as much harm to the respiratory system as smoking a full pack of cigarettes every day.
Marijuana smoke also contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into malignant cells.
Mental Health Problems
In addition, smoking marijuana can lead to increased anxiety, panic attacks, depression, social withdrawal, and other mental health problems, particularly for teens. Research shows that kids aged 12 to 17 who smoke marijuana weekly are three times more likely than nonusers to have suicidal thoughts.
Marijuana use also can cause cognitive impairment, to include such short-term effects as distorted perception, memory loss, and trouble with thinking and problem solving. Students with an average grade of D or below were found to be more than four times as likely to have used marijuana in the past year as youths who reported an average grade of A.
For young people, whose brains are still developing, these effects are particularly problematic and jeopardize their ability to achieve their full potential. |
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declan74
Joined: 06 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: |
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[quote="madoka"]
| declan74 wrote: |
Why jail time and criminal records for smoking a natural herb that hurts no one and benefits many people with terminal illnesses etc??? |
Potheads always argue that marijuana is safe. But I bet you also know some burnout who isn't all there anymore. Fact of the matter is:
Compared responses from the marijuana users at age 29 with data from age-matched abstainers, researchers found that abstainers had an overall higher level of educational attainment, better health, greater life satisfaction, and a lower rate of other drug use.
In contrast, those who had reported a relatively high level of marijuana use at age 13 fared significantly worse than all other groups on overall health and yearly earnings.
I agree that excessive marijuana use is not good for anyone.The same can be said for excessive alcohol and tobacco use.Old drunks and tobacco addicts are usually not in the best of health, while their habits remain completely legal and taxable by the government.
Drink a 5th a day and no one has a problem with it.Smoke 2 packs a of cigarettes a day and all is right with the world.
Light up a single joint and risk a lengthy jail sentence and criminal record in many parts of the world.........weird stuff.
I don't smoke pot myself but see nothing wrong with occasional use. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| declan74 wrote: |
Why jail time and criminal records for smoking a natural herb that hurts no one and benefits many people with terminal illnesses etc??? |
Potheads always argue that marijuana is safe. But I bet you also know some burnout who isn't all there anymore. Fact of the matter is:
Compared responses from the marijuana users at age 29 with data from age-matched abstainers, researchers found that abstainers had an overall higher level of educational attainment, better health, greater life satisfaction, and a lower rate of other drug use.
In contrast, those who had reported a relatively high level of marijuana use at age 13 fared significantly worse than all other groups on overall health and yearly earnings.
People underestimate the harm marijuana can cause on many aspects of their lives, the study authors said.
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Smoking marijuana can cause significant health problems. Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, of which 60 are cannabinoids. Smoking a marijuana cigarette deposits about three to five times more tar into the lungs than one filtered tobacco cigarette.
Consequently, regular marijuana smokers suffer from many of the same health problems as tobacco smokers, such as chronic coughing and wheezing, chest colds, and chronic bronchitis. In fact, studies show that smoking three to four joints per day causes at least as much harm to the respiratory system as smoking a full pack of cigarettes every day.
Marijuana smoke also contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into malignant cells.
Mental Health Problems
In addition, smoking marijuana can lead to increased anxiety, panic attacks, depression, social withdrawal, and other mental health problems, particularly for teens. Research shows that kids aged 12 to 17 who smoke marijuana weekly are three times more likely than nonusers to have suicidal thoughts.
Marijuana use also can cause cognitive impairment, to include such short-term effects as distorted perception, memory loss, and trouble with thinking and problem solving. Students with an average grade of D or below were found to be more than four times as likely to have used marijuana in the past year as youths who reported an average grade of A.
For young people, whose brains are still developing, these effects are particularly problematic and jeopardize their ability to achieve their full potential. |
This is a really bad comparative study.
Only an dullard could take that report as having any scientific merit.
Somebody must have been smoking crack when they wrote it. |
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