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Korean police: Heads up! Enforce the law not the culture
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Korean police: Heads up! Enforce the law not the culture Reply with quote

Jogging this afternoon shirtless and had 3 cops stop me near the river to tell me to put my shirt on. I said "no". They motioned for me to put it on. I looked at all of them and said, "The answer is no". The 4th cop that was there told the others to leave me alone and motioned for me to keep going.

Thing is I already went to the main police station many months ago and talked about this issue and was told that it is NOT illegal to be shirtless.

And for anyone who says that Koreans don't do this or they think it's strange then fine. If THEY don't want to do it then THEY don't have to do it. But to INSIST that I shouldn't do this is wrong. It is not illegal and since they so very often claim how global they are then be global. Don't just say it. Show it. The fact of the matter is I feel more comfortable like this because I sweat an awful lot. I run far and very fast and it is extremely uncomfortable to be wearing a shirt that is soaked.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were to run shirtless, it WOULD be illegal -- they could cite me under blight laws....
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of support you...........and kind of don't!

It's a tricky one...........would those cops ask a young Korean woman walking down the street to put out her cigarette? I suspect not. But young women smoking in the street is just as socially frowned on in Korea as shirtless men.

You should get a few Korean friends (male!) to jog shirtless past some cops a few times to see what happens.

If nothing is said then you know they just don't like your big sweaty white bulk bouncing up and down.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been running here for about a year and I hardly see any joggers. The very few times I do they are usually old men (as in late 50's) running pretty slow.

Again, they ought to enforce the laws not the culture. In fact, since they claim to be global then what I do IS the culture. Many simply don't realize it yet. If you claim it (and as often as they do) then be it.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give up. Why did you go to the police station for this in the first place?
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because some fruitcake one day (many months ago) while I was jogging kept telling me I was breaking the law so I just went to the main police station and asked about it.
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losthooper



Joined: 25 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean police: Heads up! Enforce the law not the culture Reply with quote

If you're in a crowded subway and you really need to fart, even though it's uncomfortable, you hold it. There isn't any law against passing gas in an enclosed, crowded place but you do it out of respect for the greater good.

I sweat a lot too, yes it's uncomfortable, but being that you're running in a public place, you should respect the commons, regardless of what country you're in, nobody wants to see you without your shirt.

I wear thin, dry-fit mesh tanktops, available for $8 at WalMart or your home country's equivalent. It feels like you're wearing nothing and they don't become soaked because they're designed to repel the moisture. Everyone wins.

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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do respect it. They claim to be global. I don't know any places in the world where it is acceptable about farting like that.
Poor example.

And to your comment about "nobody" wanting to see me without my shirt is false. I get a lot of support from many people (bus drivers, truck drivers, taxi drivers, etc...and yes tons of chicks).


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losthooper



Joined: 25 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
I do respect it. They claim to be global. I don't know any places in the world where it is acceptable about farting like that.
Poor example.


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Zackback



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

losthooper wrote:
Zackback wrote:
I do respect it. They claim to be global. I don't know any places in the world where it is acceptable about farting like that.
Poor example.


It's the spirit of the example, not the literal application.


Then it's a deceptive spirit.
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losthooper



Joined: 25 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
losthooper wrote:
Zackback wrote:
I do respect it. They claim to be global. I don't know any places in the world where it is acceptable about farting like that.
Poor example.


It's the spirit of the example, not the literal application.


Then it's a deceptive spirit.



Here I'll extend the analogy for you:

If you're at home, and you need to fart, you let loose because you don't need to consider the effect on others. If you're in a public place, you hold it out of respect for others.

If you're running at home on your treadmill, you run shirtless because you don't need to consider the effect on others. When at the gym or on the street, you wear a shirt out of respect for others.
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losthooper



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
And to your comment about "nobody" wanting to see me without my shirt is false. I get a lot of support from many people (bus drivers, truck drivers, taxi drivers, etc...and yes tons of chicks).


Look, I guarantee you I'm in better shape than you (6 feet tall, 170lbs, 5% body fat, 32" vertical leap) but I'm not naive enough to think that everyone wants to see me shirtless.

It's an affront to others when you do that in public, you didn't even give people the option throwing it out there like that. If you want to get on your runner's high and do it anyway, go for it, but when you come on an internet board and make a passive aggressive post about it, my advice is to avoid the hassle, just wear a dry fit mesh cut-off shirt, and go on with your life. Up to you.
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Zackback



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Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

losthooper wrote:
Zackback wrote:
losthooper wrote:
Zackback wrote:
I do respect it. They claim to be global. I don't know any places in the world where it is acceptable about farting like that.
Poor example.


It's the spirit of the example, not the literal application.


Then it's a deceptive spirit.



Here I'll extend the analogy for you:

If you're at home, and you need to fart, you let loose because you don't need to consider the effect on others. If you're in a public place, you hold it out of respect for others.

If you're running at home on your treadmill, you run shirtless because you don't need to consider the effect on others. When at the gym or on the street, you wear a shirt out of respect for others.


The fart example stinks. It's already been discredited.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

losthooper wrote:
Zackback wrote:
And to your comment about "nobody" wanting to see me without my shirt is false. I get a lot of support from many people (bus drivers, truck drivers, taxi drivers, etc...and yes tons of chicks).


Look, I guarantee you I'm in better shape than you (6 feet tall, 170lbs, 5% body fat, 32" vertical leap) but I'm not naive enough to think that everyone wants to see me shirtless.

It's an affront to others when you do that in public, you didn't even give people the option throwing it out there like that. If you want to get on your runner's high and do it anyway, go for it, but when you come on an internet board and make a passive aggressive post about it, my advice is to avoid the hassle, just wear a dry fit mesh cut-off shirt, and go on with your life. Up to you.


We are talking about running...and I guarantee you are not in better shape than me in this area.
I don't want to see people doing certain things either but if they are not breaking the law then that is part of a free society - a society in which the claim to be global is said often.
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BankOfRC



Joined: 06 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never had any problems running without a shirt and I would run on those park trails which get packed. Way too hot to wear a shirt in the summer. Many times I passed police officers, my biggest problem was a smile from the female ones but thats because I look good. Clearly OP you are just ugly. But I am in better shape than anyone in here, that's not even an opinion, that's a fact. I put the jack in jacked. I also got a big BEEP and wore short shorts.
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