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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:


Can anyone tell when its gone from glance to stare? I mean no one is in their right state of mind when they're looking at someone attractive.


Presumably when the recipient feels that you're a bit rapey?
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morrisonhotel wrote:
Steelrails wrote:


Can anyone tell when its gone from glance to stare? I mean no one is in their right state of mind when they're looking at someone attractive.


Presumably when the recipient feels that you're a bit rapey?


So that would probably be after I start fidgeting uncontrollably with my hands...
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methdxman



Joined: 14 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people just need [Ad hominem]. Jesus christ.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
The Floating World wrote:
rainism wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Is anyone here actually saying that staring is not rude? How about pointing? Talking about someone?


I suspect it's not considered AS rude, within Korean culture.
like slurping hot soup for example.
or burping after a good meal in Japanese culture.
but then, someone has to ask a Korean.

I think the point being made is that it's not as big a deal as so many people make it out to be, and people should use their energy more constructively to care about other things.


Actually pointing IS rude, very rude in Korean culture.

Steelrails and tum must know this, but they seem to conveniently sidestep such truths out of whatever objective it is they have...

I can see this back and forth going on forever, so I'm outtie like five oh.



We were discussing staring and I clearly said it was rude regardless. But I was commenting on the double standard that other people have noticed as well. Read first then post.


Why don't YOU?
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

methdxman wrote:
Some people just need to grow some balls. Jesus christ.


I read the tos for this site the other day and am sure this is not fitting with it.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Sorry Zyz, read the whole thread.


Thanks. Wink

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You can choose to ignore this double standard Zyz but I find it sad and that it speaks volumes about some people.


I don't feel I'm ignoring some double standard. I'm not sure why you would word it that way, trying to spin it so that I'm taking some sort of "whiner" stance. You tend to do that with me whenever I respond to one of your, at least in my opinion, haughty and rushed responses.

And just to make my particular opinion clear, staring at an attractive person is just as rude as a fierce glare. What some dork who's been here 6 months is whining about (the initial responses) really does not interest me in the slightest. I'm not really sure why you invest so much disdain in said complaints, because I know if I focused on tackling them and changing opinions I'd get sick of this board real fast. I do, however, hope you've managed to influence people to change their negative viewpoints.

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Finally this thread is no discourse, nor is it even an informed discussion. It is a rant thread where some people have tried to bring different perspectives into play.


If we're going to be pedantic about word choice then it's still technically a discourse. But that's neither here nor there, I was just trying to vary up word choice.

Anyway, I still think you're oversimplifying certain responses. I'm not trying to give you a hard time about it. That's the gist of my point, I suppose.


Your point was well made Zyv. I have no issue with it actually. I am simply commenting on the double standard that exists on here.

Now, in my opinion, some staring is rude, most of it is innocent and not rude. Others react differently. Such is life I suppose.
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PastorYoon



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Sea of Japan

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the "Wah! Waygook-i-da!" all of the time. I responded to a rude clan of kids with a nice "와! 아시아 사람 다!" just today. They hated it for some reason. Wonder why that is...

What comes around goes around.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PastorYoon wrote:
I get the "Wah! Waygook-i-da!" all of the time. I responded to a rude clan of kids with a nice "와! 아시아 사람 다!" just today. They hated it for some reason. Wonder why that is...

What comes around goes around.


So you as an ADULT responded to KIDS in a childish manner and you are PROUD if it? Great job you insulted some kids. Your Medal of Valour is in the mail! Laughing

Oh well, to each his own eh.
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PastorYoon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did I insult them? Is it considered an insult to be called an Asian person? You said it, not me...

My take on it is that I was called a foreigner loud enough for me to hear it. The boy wanted me to hear it, and the other boys made it clear that they wanted me to hear their laughter as a response to seeing a foreigner. I believe that by saying "Wa! An Asian person!", they could at least see how stupid their behavior is. If not that, then they can at least understand that I know what they are saying. To me, they were just people until they yelled something at me.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PastorYoon wrote:
Did I insult them? Is it considered an insult to be called an Asian person? You said it, not me...

My take on it is that I was called a foreigner loud enough for me to hear it. The boy wanted me to hear it, and the other boys made it clear that they wanted me to hear their laughter as a response to seeing a foreigner. I believe that by saying "Wa! An Asian person!", they could at least see how stupid their behavior is. If not that, then they can at least understand that I know what they are saying. To me, they were just people until they yelled something at me.


I enjoy reading some of your posts, but come on, kids wanting you to hear what they say?

You know, I'm a bit bothered. I've had a broken hand for 6 weeks now, and with all the staring and glaring going on, you'd think someone would notice the injured hand and cough up a seat on the bus.

One time in 6 weeks. Thanks, random lady riding the 402.

I mean yeah staring is fun and giggly to harp about, but really, I'd like to be stared at right now. I'd like someone to notice the wrist brace and be like "Wow it's a foreigner" so I can milk it for all it's worth and get myself a seat, but I'm having no such luck.

This one's a tough call for me. And I repeat, cute kids always get a pass in my book.

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Your point was well made Zyv. I have no issue with it actually. I am simply commenting on the double standard that exists on here.

Now, in my opinion, some staring is rude, most of it is innocent and not rude. Others react differently. Such is life I suppose.


Comment away on the BS double standards! I just hope you don't leap into threads headfirst and hamper yourself before you dig in. Get to know 'em and then hammer down. Wink
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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never get stared at but it's because I blend in well. I'm in shape, I dress in trim clothes like Korean men do, and I don't have a big beard or anything. It's not that hard.
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JeffersonDarcy2010



Joined: 05 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorf wrote:
I never get stared at but it's because I blend in well. I'm in shape, I dress in trim clothes like Korean men do, and I don't have a big beard or anything. It's not that hard.


I don't blend in well at all. I'm muscular, tall, white, and handsome.
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Munniko



Joined: 04 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blend in 50/50 here depending on what angle you get me from Laughing but I've just gotten used to the staring the states because I rather well endowed for such a tiny girl so I figure that is the reason I get stares here. Also according to my co-workers it is my good skin as well, so maybe that might be part of other "nice skin quality people" getting stared at?

I don't know I'm on the fence at how to react with staring, yes it is rude, but sometimes like on the train they aren't really staring at you, but through you because you just happen to be at eye level. Although I do tend to get a little grumpy when it is an outright stare at my chest because I didn't bundle up well enough to cover my entire chest. I like to think that if they are actually looking at you it is because you have something they want like double eyelids, nice legs, pale smooth skin, large sweater warmers.
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jfromtheway



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also according to my co-workers it is my good skin as well, so maybe that might be part of other "nice skin quality people" getting stared at?


That is hilarious. I stare at women who look nice because, darnet, I just can't help myself sometimes; I suppose many of them also have nice skin though. The glaring irks me when it comes from older people. Best way to go about it is to win the staring contest, motion at them in some way, or say something to make them feel awkward.
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Munniko



Joined: 04 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
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Also according to my co-workers it is my good skin as well, so maybe that might be part of other "nice skin quality people" getting stared at?


That is hilarious. I stare at women who look nice because, darnet, I just can't help myself sometimes; I suppose many of them also have nice skin though. The glaring irks me when it comes from older people. Best way to go about it is to win the staring contest, motion at them in some way, or say something to make them feel awkward.


yeah I would have called BS, but this was just before the co-worker cornered me and asked what my skin care routine was. I think when the weather gets hot again and I can't wear turtle necks I will end up doing a couple staring contests and practice the "I'm watching you" hand gesture.
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