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SMOE: NETs at high schools will not be renewed
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: SMOE: NETs at high schools will not be renewed Reply with quote

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I just spoke to a friend - SMOE held a meeting with High School and Middle School Teachers. At the meeting it was announced that High School teachers would not be renewed next year.


The market is about to get even more flooded. Shocked
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Gorf



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's not that many anyways, but it still is a pretty dumb move trying to use non-native teachers of any language.
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Malislamusrex



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Academic high schools need NET most, and technical schools need NET least.

You think someone would spend a few weeks going around schools and assessing which schools need NET....
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if Korea wants to reduce the amount of native speakers at the high school level, they can, but make the Korean teachers take classes with native speakers and make them improve. However, too often you have these Korean teachers due to cultural reasons who don't want to change and don't want to be taught by a younger foreign teacher. That would happen even if that foreign teacher had a master's degree in teaching English and has a lot of experience. A major problem is not simply that many of the Korean teachers don't speak great English, they also use old methods. Most NET's don't have degrees in English. That's true. However, they've been taught by teachers at universities who use newer methods. People forget that when they trash the NET's. Of course, they're not going to be like the guys with the MA's or PHD's in the field, but they're still useful.
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liveinkorea316



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that it is a good idea actually. It is better to redeploy any high school teachers to elementary and middle schools.

It is simply a case of refocussing rather than culling. The culling is happening at the elementary and Middle levels but that is s different topic.

Applied Linguistics research will tell you that it is better to teach languages younger.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not do both? (Have NETs in high schools as well as middle schools and elementary schools.) There are more applicants than positions open, so this is certainly doable.

Though learning a language at a young age is important, it is also important to refine the language at an older age.
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Mix1



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this official now? Or more smoke and mirrors?
I've got three friends who work in high schools and no one has mentioned anything specific, but lots of rumors have been floated. Seems like all the Korean teachers know something but aren't sharing any info.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
Is this official now? Or more smoke and mirrors?
I've got three friends who work in high schools and no one has mentioned anything specific, but lots of rumors have been floated. Seems like all the Korean teachers know something but aren't sharing any info.


Bolded part based on the thread OP that starts with: I just spoke to a friend...
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ZIFA



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: SMOE: NETs at high schools will not be renewed Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
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I just spoke to a friend - SMOE held a meeting with High School and Middle School Teachers. At the meeting it was announced that High School teachers would not be renewed next year.


The market is about to get even more flooded. Shocked


To be fair, the jobs might return if the Korean economy recovers.
There just ain't that much money floating around for luxuries right now.

And FT's are regarded as a luxury.
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dbtm



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is true. All the recruiters have been told about it already.

Deny it all you want for lack of official sources. SMOE won't say anything until the last minute.
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waynehead



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard this as well, but not officially. I work at a high school. My co-teacher called to ask about renewal procedures for next year and they said that it's likely the funding for high school NETs will be withdrawn. This was a few weeks ago.

Apparently if your school wants to use money out of their own budget to keep you, that would be fine (of course). But obviously not all schools can/want to do that.

I haven't heard anything about possibly being reassigned to middle or elementary, because AFAIK, it still isn't official yet. But for other high school SMOE teachers: you might want to have a backup plan. I'm getting mine together.
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brento1138



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malislamusrex wrote:
Academic high schools need NET most, and technical schools need NET least.

You think someone would spend a few weeks going around schools and assessing which schools need NET....


Absolutely spot on comment.

The problem at the beginning was there was too much funding. They simply threw money at ESL learning and hoped for the best.

The problem now is there is too little funding.

SMOE needs to learn how to use their resources more effectively.

Anyways, this is old news. A few years ago I heard they had a 5 year plan to phase out teachers. Are we at 5 years yet?
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amoonbot



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, nothing is "confirmed", however, Jon Pak (SMOE coordinator) said that it is very possible that SMOE will not be hiring any more high school NETs starting March 2012. For current high school NETs planning on renewing in 3/2012, there have been talks of them being transferred to middle or elementary schools. Again, nothing is "confirmed". Always good to have a back-up plan.
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ThingsComeAround



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When has anything ever been confirmed here?
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waynehead



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm this now. Just got the news Friday. Most high school NSETs are being shifted towards middle and elementary next year.
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