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[T-J]

Can't honestly say I'm completely behind him myself at this point. The question for now isn't really about whether he is the best candidate among the GOP hopefuls or whether he can beat Obama. It can certainly go in that direction...

My question for now to get things started is can he win the GOP nomination? Or are the cogs of the machine set to block his way?

[Leon]

Does he think he can win?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/us/politics/gop-hopeful-herman-cain-on-book-tour-not-campaign-trail.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=herman%20cain&st=cse

He's busy on his book tour, and not really campaigning hard. Also he is not doing the ground work in the first states like Iowa. He is enjoying the publicity, the book sales, and the increased speaking fee.

I get the appeal, but when you have a bigot who wants to trump one groups first ammendment rights it's troublesome. When some of the countries of thoose people are major world players, it's troublesome. When I know more about foreign policy than a presidential candidate it's troublesome. No real political experince is troublesome, etc. etc.

[Squire]

Ron Paul seems like the only credibly GOP candidate to me. I don't agree with his very far right economics or religious beliefs but he seems to have integrity and balls

[comm]

He's already flip-flopping.
I get the impression that his principles led him to say that the no-trial execution of Al Awlaki would be unconstitutional back in May, but he feels the need to kowtow to public opinion and praise it now. Do not trust.
Being the former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City doesn't help either. Honestly, I think he's being propped up by the Republican establishment to keep it from becoming a Romney VS Paul race.

I'm done voting for liars and flip-floppers. Ron Paul 2012

[Ya-ta Boy]

Herman Cain only gets the numbers that he does because he's a dork.

Definition of a dork: If you don't agree with me, then you are brainwashed.

That is insulting to a fair number of people. Whether it is true or not, few people in my experience want to be told they are stupid.

It's a fair and all too accurate statement on a chat board..because it's all too often true, but not useful when you need people to vote for you. It's especially unfortunate in his particular case, because if anyone has been brainwashed, it is him.

[weso1]

Cain is a businessman. I think he got in this with honest intentions. But after seeing how running for president is actually done, he's just trying to have a big pay day and bow out, like Trump.

On a side note, I would never vote for him, but I'd love to see Ron Paul stop trying to be a GOP Republican and run on the Libertarian ticket. He'd bring real attention to that party and could probably do better than Perro did in 92. It would finally give the real Libertarians the juevos to break away from their Republican over lords and we'd get a real 3rd party.

It might encourage the Tea Parties to break away as well, leaving 3 "conservative" parties: The Republican GOP - Wall Streeters and Neocons, The Libertarians, and The Tea Party - religious right.

The left could finally split down the middle the way it always should have been. The Democrats - left-of-center, and The Progressives - liberals and democratic socialists.

[enj0i]

[Leon]

In his defense, there was a Godfathers Pizza in my town when I went to college. They had a good beer selection, good enough pizza, and decent prices. That's really all the good I can say about the man, that and he is more entertaining than the others.

[Kuros]

He has no public sector experience. His private sector experience amounts to CEO (not founder) of a pizza chain. His resume makes as much sense as a Midwestern state senator becoming head of GM.

Second, he's an anti-Muslim bigot.

Third, he doesn't understand the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

[sirius black]

I love his personal story. A Horatio Alger story and his life story says so much about what is good about America for anyone no matter what you look like or believe in.

That said, I personally wouldn't vote for him. I don't mind him not having in elected office before. I think that criteria is way overvalued and done by pols who fear good private citizen candidates who offer competiton for them.

My reaons are that he has a lack of knowledge of basic foreign policy issues. Issues that many regular posters on Daves would know. For example, he didn't know of Israeli claims of right of return. In debates he showed this lack of knowledge which is surprising because those running for president hire policy experts in economics, foreign policy, energy, health care, etc. Either he didn't hire advisors or they shortchanged him.

I see someone who is too autocratic as well. No matter how much of a ideologue you are as President you MUST compromise to get things done. I don't see that in him. Maybe he can but I don't. Its the only thing about having public office experience that helps. That and being the subject of public criticism.

I think he'd make an excellent head of some department like Commerce for example but NOT the oval office.

Finally, the only way he can beat Obama is if he polls better than Obama in key states like Florida, Ohio, Penna. and Michigan. I don't think he does if I recall. Romney and Paul poll well against Obama. Only a few points in those states which can be overcome.

[whatisinmyhead]

no, he's too black. and too wack.

i'd vote for that "rent is too damn high" guy before him.

[alwaysgood]

Everyone knows Romney is going to win the primary, they just don't want to admit it yet. It has been pretty obvious from early on, but nobody is really all that excited about him. He has all the money and is the only one that stands a chance in the general election.

That said, I think Obama will take the general election.

[Kuros]

[Ya-ta Boy]

I think he entered the race with an eye on upping his listenership numbers on his talk radio show and hoping for an offer from Fox. I still don't think he thinks he's serious--he's on a month-long book tour.

We've elected a few generals as a reward for good service from time to time, but knowing generals have extensive administrative experience. (We've also rejected quite a few.) Have we ever elected a businessman? I can't think of one off the top of my head. We elect men who have political experience. Cain has none.

[Nowhere Man]