Korean Job Discussion Forums

morningsoju · Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Location: Seoul, Korea

from what ive noticed, the pay is still around the same as several years ago for first time teachers. what i think took a hit is the teachers with experience. before the schools gave a 10%-15% raise after a year contract, but now your lucky to get 5%.

PatrickGHBusan · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject:

The examples provided in this thread clearly show each place (Korea and China) has its advantages and disadvantages.

Up to each person to choose what fits them better.

asylum seeker · Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.

And so it begins...

WadRUG'naDoo · Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Location: Shanghai

koreatimes · Joined: 07 Jun 2011

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The Floating World · Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Location: Here

isitts · Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea

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alwaysgood · Joined: 15 Aug 2011 Location: Changwon

Wages outside of Seoul are still alright. I don't think China is a better option for most teachers yet, but it probably will be in a few years as they can start to afford better wages.

waynehead · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Location: Jongno

The attractive thing about China, for me anyway, is that the currency is stable and will inevitably appreciate against my home currency (US). Both the yuan and the won are artificially deflated, but at least the yuan's fluctuations are stable and predictable.

pest2 · Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada

NOW = 3 years? um... NOW is NOW is NOW...well, it was 2 weeks ago..still..

pest2 · Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada

Dude, it was 4 years ago. Do you remember every single number related to your life 4 years ago? Your address? Alien ID #?

The money was paid in cash, I do remember that much. I didn't have a bank acct in China.

I said I was only there for 3 months. Did you read that? So I didn't complete. So there was no completion bonus.

So, it's no longer true that you can get a one room studio kind of place in SH for 200$ Do tell.. what is the current rate?

You can talk about what ever you want, but I was talking specifically about saving money in a big city like Shanghai or Beijing. Or you would like to expand it to Taiwan? Japan? Actually, teaching English, in general, sucks as a means of saving money, if you really wanna generalize...

You're not making a logical connection between 'paid rent in the past', 'TEFL training' and 'their expenditures'. Are you saying that rent has gone up so significantly? If so, what does that have to do with having a TEFL cert? I'm sure you have a point, somewhere.. waiting to see it.

Again, you are confusing issues, it seems... 1) Yes, it's more expensive to live in Shanghai and 2) yes the pay is higher in Shanghai. But 3) the pay is not proportionately lower or even the same, relative to cost of living in Shanghai, compared to other places in China.. And 4) compared to Korea, the pay to expenses ratio is only slightly worse for saving money, recently, which was the whole point of this discussion.. because, afterall, this is the Korea job discussion board, not the China board.

5) Totally unrelated, single people have slightly greater expenses in both Korea and Shanghai because they can't share those expenses in either place. Again, this is the KOREA DISCUSSION BOARD, so we're trying to establish a baseline for comparison between Korea and another country, in this case, China. You haven't shown how being single in Shanghai has a more detrimental affect on your savings potential than being single in Korea.... period.

Same thing goes for the TEFL -- if you have one, you will make more money and get a better job. If you dont, you will get a crappier job and make less money.. Although in Korea, its probably not as important to have a TEFL.. but it will still purport to a pay increase and better job in most cases.