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BigBuds

Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Then he shouldn't have committed murder in a country with a justice system like that.
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If I get accused of murder... say .... in Indonesia, should my lawyer have to deal with the Indonesian standards that you can't insult the police, therefore everything the police say in court is not open to any scrutiny from my defense. That actually has happened to Westerners in Indonesia and that's obviously screwed up. Why just because I or another westerner might be in another country is it right and just and reasonable that if I were accused of something that I or any other westerner should be subject to that type of judicial thinking and reasoning. |
Yes, your lawyer should have to deal with the Indonesia standards as in your example, as you lawyer would be an Indonesian lawyer use to dealing with the Indonesian justice system.
You'd have to be an absolute moron to try and use a US lawyer in the Indonesian justice system just as you would be an absolute moron to use an Indonesian lawyer in the US justice system.
Just because your a westerner doesn't mean, nor give you the right, to be tried in what ever system you think is fair. You get tried where ever you committed the crime.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, in what ever country your in.
Your living in a fantasy if you think it should be the other way around or that it will ever be like that.
Let me ask you this, if a Korean murdered your father in the US and fled back to Korea, do you think he should be tried here in Korea and most likely walk away with a very lite sentence, a couple of years or less, or even get off with a good behavior bond after using the "I was drunk your honor" defense which does happen in Korea quite often?
Do you honestly think that would be fair? And remember, I'm using your logic here. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| BigBuds wrote: |
Then he shouldn't have committed murder in a country with a justice system like that.
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If I get accused of murder... say .... in Indonesia, should my lawyer have to deal with the Indonesian standards that you can't insult the police, therefore everything the police say in court is not open to any scrutiny from my defense. That actually has happened to Westerners in Indonesia and that's obviously screwed up. Why just because I or another westerner might be in another country is it right and just and reasonable that if I were accused of something that I or any other westerner should be subject to that type of judicial thinking and reasoning. |
Yes, your lawyer should have to deal with the Indonesia standards as in your example, as you lawyer would be an Indonesian lawyer use to dealing with the Indonesian justice system.
You'd have to be an absolute moron to try and use a US lawyer in the Indonesian justice system just as you would be an absolute moron to use an Indonesian lawyer in the US justice system.
Just because your a westerner doesn't mean, nor give you the right, to be tried in what ever system you think is fair. You get tried where ever you committed the crime.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, in what ever country your in.
Your living in a fantasy if you think it should be the other way around or that it will ever be like that.
Let me ask you this, if a Korean murdered your father in the US and fled back to Korea, do you think he should be tried here in Korea and most likely walk away with a very lite sentence, a couple of years or less, or even get off with a good behavior bond after using the "I was drunk your honor" defense which does happen in Korea quite often?
Do you honestly think that would be fair? And remember, I'm using your logic here. |
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BigBuds

Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| So young-clinton, are you going to answer my question or have you crawled back under your rock with your ridiculous self entitled logic? |
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