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Public schools, time off vs. desk warming, what is normal

 
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:17 am    Post subject: Public schools, time off vs. desk warming, what is normal Reply with quote

I had an interesting conversation the other day. I know people on both ends of the spectrum when it comes to PS time off. To my surprise, both sides felt the other was in the minority. When I worked for a PS, I never got out early and barely got all my vacation days. I figured my friends who got let out at noon and had 30 day vacations were just a lucky few. The topic came up and I got the sense that they thought most people had the same experience as them and they considered people in my old circumstance an unlucky few.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what happened when a thread like this was started over the summer break? Yep. A policy letter from the Office of Education mandating that all--not some, not a few, but all--GETs be in the school from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., regardless of the hours the Korean English teachers work, regardless of a lack of classes. The policy even included a twice daily inspection to ensure said GET was actually present.

In advance, I'd like to thank you for the soon to appear winter memorandum.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
You know what happened when a thread like this was started over the summer break? Yep. A policy letter from the Office of Education mandating that all--not some, not a few, but all--GETs be in the school from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., regardless of the hours the Korean English teachers work, regardless of a lack of classes. The policy even included a twice daily inspection to ensure said GET was actually present.

In advance, I'd like to thank you for the soon to appear winter memorandum.


Thats UMPOSSIBLE (Simpsons joke) Cali! What write on the internet is SECRET!!!! Laughing
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it thats +1 for the time off side. If NETS tattle on each other thats their business. I dont think the Koreans care if some foreign teacher has a better deal than another foreign teacher. I dont think it will matter considering you said they imposed new regulations, yet not much changed as far as I can tell.
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alwaysgood



Joined: 15 Aug 2011
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desk warming is normal for me, and most other PS teachers I know.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the 5 years I've worked in PS I have never deskwarmed, but if I was told I had to I wouldn't waste my energy trying to get out of it.
Besides, I'd probably get more studying done at school then at home.
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swinewho



Joined: 17 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Principal dosen't care what the office tell him - he does what he wants!

I kind of hope that an official letter does come this winter, becasue then he'll let me go even earlier just to annoy them! Very Happy

Principal = god (a real one that is) Razz
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
You know what happened when a thread like this was started over the summer break? Yep. A policy letter from the Office of Education mandating that all--not some, not a few, but all--GETs be in the school from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., regardless of the hours the Korean English teachers work, regardless of a lack of classes. The policy even included a twice daily inspection to ensure said GET was actually present.

In advance, I'd like to thank you for the soon to appear winter memorandum.


Although to be fair the thread was only the indirect cause.

What directly caused it was NETs complaining to their co-teachers, principals and in some cases, writing letters directly to the local POE to complain about the fact they had to deskwarm when other NETs didn't.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, thinking about it my first school informed me that I should come in after the summer camp was finished, but they seemed baffled as to why. I came in for 3 hours, realised I was basically the only person in the building and went home. They never even noticed.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I came in for 3 hours, realised I was basically the only person in the building and went home. They never even noticed.


Yea, it sucks trying to wake up the maintenance guy from his sleep to let you in.
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe I was wrong about just a few lucky people
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rural versus urban area? I would suspect most of SMOE would be quite strict. But some rural areas can occasionally be anal too. But most of the time, I would think rural areas would be more laid back and cities are more strict. Possible exceptions. If you have to, keep your mouth shut and hope that with administration changes you'll get to go too in the future. Complain and you'll all have to stay, even in the future.
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Grantasmagoria



Joined: 04 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first year and a half of vacations was pure bliss, one to two week camps and the rest was whatever I wanted to do.

Then, the crackdowns started and it was 3 week camps, my vacation days getting shifted around right before the vacation time started, and the rest of the time desk warming in a frigid / blistering hot school. I even offered to not get paid instead of desk warming. The school turned me down, hahaha. Desk warming is a fucking joke.
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