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comm
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Except that Paul didn't deny that he wrote them for the first five years this was an issue. Not until 2001 did he suddenly change his claim and say it was a "ghostwriter". |
One of the resources for your first link: http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/why-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-matter/ was this one which says:
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...in interviews with reason, a half-dozen longtime libertarian activists�including some still close to Paul�all named the same man as Paul's chief ghostwriter: Ludwig von Mises Institute founder Llewellyn Rockwell, Jr.
Financial records from 1985 and 2001 show that Rockwell, Paul's congressional chief of staff from 1978 to 1982, was a vice president of Ron Paul & Associates, the corporation that published the Ron Paul Political Report and the Ron Paul Survival Report. The company was dissolved in 2001. During the period when the most incendiary items appeared�roughly 1989 to 1994�Rockwell and the prominent libertarian theorist Murray Rothbard championed an open strategy of exploiting racial and class resentment to build a coalition with populist "paleoconservatives," producing a flurry of articles and manifestos whose racially charged talking points and vocabulary mirrored the controversial Paul newsletters recently unearthed by The New Republic.
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The tenor of Paul's newsletters changed over the years. The ones published between Paul's return to private life after three full terms in congress (1985) and his Libertarian presidential bid (1988) notably lack inflammatory racial or anti-gay comments. |
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At the time [the 1996 newspaper interviews], Paul defended the statements that appeared under his name, claiming that they expressed his "philosophical differences" with Democrats and had been "taken out of context." He finally disavowed them in a 2001 interview with Texas Monthly, explaining that his campaign staff had convinced him at the time that it would be too "confusing" to attribute them to a ghostwriter.
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While obviously not conclusive, I think this shows Paul to have been guilty of dishonesty rather than of racism. I'm sure he knew the identity of the ghostwriter, since so much money was riding on it. He obviously should have watched over the content much more closely during the time he was not writing them. I think it's unfortunate that Paul chose to lie about it in the first place, and that he didn't simply state the facts when asked about it.
Based on Paul's long-running lack of racist remarks and direct testimony of his non-racist character, I think that he looked the other way as long as the money was coming in... Then when directly confronted about his ghostwriter's topics, took the heat without blaming his friend who wrote them. And when the topic came up again in 2001, the ghostwriter truth was worthy of telling, but he seemingly still didn't want to blame the guy on the newsletter's staff who had a proven history of writing horribly racist things.
It's weird and it's not pretty. I think Rockwell would come up as the ghostwriter if Paul made progress in the GOP nomination. I appreciate the light you've brought to this, as it does tarnish Paul's reputation of absolute honesty. Still, I think his candidacy would survive this being in the open, and he'd still be the most honest President of modern times. |
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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri
Joined: 09 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Ineverlie&I'malwaysri wrote: |
By that logic, no one should ever vote for anyone except the eventual winner.
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And even then, sometimes the winner doesn't even win. |
Yet another reason why it is a failed strategy.
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| One of the few candidates that I think won't be bought off by special interest money. Cain is similar as well |
You can't be sirius! Cain used to sit on the board of a Federal Reserve bank!
Anyway, you are certainly not alone as a black supporter of Ron Paul. By ending the wars on drugs and in Afghanistan and Iraq, he would be doing more to help blacks (not to mention everybody) than anyone else, including black politicians.
Black Democrats Go to Israel, Ron Paul Puts Democrats to Shame
African Americans For Ron Paul
Blacks Support Ron Paul More Than Obama
The racism charge is just nonsense. Actually, being the subject of dirty political tricks (which is all this racist kerfluffle is) shows that his campaign is being taken more seriously.
Reminder: many Dems and independents support Ron Paul. If you live in one of 18 or so closed primary states, you will not be allowed to vote Ron Paul in the primary unless you are a registered REPUB. Not many know this. Some of the states are: FL, CT, CO, DE, OR, OK, NE, MD, NY, PA, DC, KY, LA, NC, SD, UT, WV, et al. Change to REPUB asap - do not get cheated out of a vote, don't let Dr. Paul be cheated out of the nomination! Pass it on. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH4lo0BsdvY&feature=player_embedded
I wonder what the Ron Paul people think of this Ron Paul campaign add. Watching him pander to your standard GOPer's is funny. As is his claim that he supported Ron Reagan considering how much he increased the deficit and was involved overseas. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| As is his claim that he supported Ron Reagan considering how much he increased the deficit and was involved overseas. |
To be specific, it says he supported Reagan when he was running for office. When Reagan went back on many of his anti-inflation, low spending promises, Paul actually quit the GOP in protest.
I'm in a similar position, having supported Obama based on his campaign promises and thoroughly rejecting what he's decided to actually do in office.
Of all the ads in the campaign so far, I think this one is my favorite... even though it's being run by Perry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfcOGWRfXdk |
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