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cjj681
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 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:56 am Post subject: RCMP Check from Korea |
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| I know this had been posted before, but I was looking for a confirmation. Can I get a CBC from the RCMP apostilled at the embassy in Korea? Any help would be appreciated. |
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Skippy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| I do not thing so anymore. You can send it to your local Canadian Consulate to be verified but it needs to copied and notarized first. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:55 am Post subject: Re: RCMP Check from Korea |
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| cjj681 wrote: |
| I know this had been posted before, but I was looking for a confirmation. Can I get a CBC from the RCMP apostilled at the embassy in Korea? Any help would be appreciated. |
No.
Nhe embassy never did do an apostille (Canada is NOT a signatory to the treaty so it is not possible to get a legal apostille for a Canadian document).
Hence:
Canadians do not need an apostille.
What you do need to do with it is have it sent (by mail) to a Korean consulate in Canada and have them certify it.
The fee is (or was) $4.50.
Each consulate has a slightly different list of requirements so check with the one you are going to use (or as an alternative get someone at home to do the legwork - faster).
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cjj681
Joined: 03 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:30 am Post subject: |
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ttompatz
I was wondering. I checked on the kimmi immigration site and it stated that if I was already in Korea, I could go to the Embassy here and have it certified. Do you know if this is in fact the case?
Thanks for replying |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: |
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ttompatz
I was wondering. I checked on the kimmi immigration site and it stated that if I was already in Korea, I could go to the Embassy here and have it certified. Do you know if this is in fact the case?
Thanks for replying |
Has NOT been the case since Dec. 2010.
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nachoinkorea
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, but you most certainly can get your RCMP (or local check or provincial check) stamped at the Canadian Embassy in Seoul and Immigration will accept this. I had 3 Canadian teachers on my staff do this in just the last 2 weeks. Immigration in Seoul (other parts of the country, not sure) will absolutely accept this. I had an American do this just this morning.
I have said this before, if you are already in Korea you can have your background check sent to you here and take it to your embassy and sign a sworn affidavit in front of a consular officer and they will stamp it and Immigration will accept this. THIS WORKS FOR ALL 7 COUNTRIES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR AN E-2. |
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HolemanN
Joined: 08 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quick question for those that have obviously done this before. When getting a CBC here in Canada (I live in BC) is it mandatory that you have an employer already? I've been busy at work so I haven't had the time to visit the police station yet, but filling out the forms, it seems like I need to already have one. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Quick question for those that have obviously done this before. When getting a CBC here in Canada (I live in BC) is it mandatory that you have an employer already? I've been busy at work so I haven't had the time to visit the police station yet, but filling out the forms, it seems like I need to already have one. |
What! Yea some forms/places ask for a reason. Give the usual immigration, visa, work, etc. What place are you using? Go to the local RCMP detachment and get a name check done. it will take from a few hours to a few days to get. True you might have to go back, but you are rocking. Maybe they are asking for a work place because they are also doing a VSS search. That is not needed and besides not done for jobs outside of Canada. Then get it copied and notarized and send to Vancouver Consulate to be verified.
You are lucky yours can be done quickly, unlike for many of us in Korea it can take weeks to months to get. |
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HolemanN
Joined: 08 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Skippy wrote: |
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| Quick question for those that have obviously done this before. When getting a CBC here in Canada (I live in BC) is it mandatory that you have an employer already? I've been busy at work so I haven't had the time to visit the police station yet, but filling out the forms, it seems like I need to already have one. |
What! Yea some forms/places ask for a reason. Give the usual immigration, visa, work, etc. What place are you using? Go to the local RCMP detachment and get a name check done. it will take from a few hours to a few days to get. True you might have to go back, but you are rocking. Maybe they are asking for a work place because they are also doing a VSS search. That is not needed and besides not done for jobs outside of Canada. Then get it copied and notarized and send to Vancouver Consulate to be verified.
You are lucky yours can be done quickly, unlike for many of us in Korea it can take weeks to months to get. |
Thanks for the information!
I went to my local police department today with my CBC all filled out. The guy behind the counter told me that since I'm going to be working outside of Canada, I have to get a police certificate or something instead :/ |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| Skippy wrote: |
| HolemanN wrote: |
| Quick question for those that have obviously done this before. When getting a CBC here in Canada (I live in BC) is it mandatory that you have an employer already? I've been busy at work so I haven't had the time to visit the police station yet, but filling out the forms, it seems like I need to already have one. |
What! Yea some forms/places ask for a reason. Give the usual immigration, visa, work, etc. What place are you using? Go to the local RCMP detachment and get a name check done. it will take from a few hours to a few days to get. True you might have to go back, but you are rocking. Maybe they are asking for a work place because they are also doing a VSS search. That is not needed and besides not done for jobs outside of Canada. Then get it copied and notarized and send to Vancouver Consulate to be verified.
You are lucky yours can be done quickly, unlike for many of us in Korea it can take weeks to months to get. |
Thanks for the information!
I went to my local police department today with my CBC all filled out. The guy behind the counter told me that since I'm going to be working outside of Canada, I have to get a police certificate or something instead :/ |
That seems to be what it says online, too.
The chart below provides approximate wait times for fingerprint submissions received by the RCMP when there is no match to a fingerprint holding.
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Application for
Paper fingerprint submission
Criminal record check
Completed by a police service or accredited fingerprint agency
12 weeks
Criminal record check with vulnerable sector check
Can only be completed by a police service of local jurisdiction
10 weeks |
(http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/time-temps-eng.htm)
But this confuses me because I had submitted (last time I sent in docs, 2-3 years ago or something) the CBC with VSS done by the police service, and immigration just told me they need an RCMP check and that the one I handed in was not good enough (even though it said it was a national check). So do they not want VSS, or do they accept non-RCMP? Or is there some RCMP VSS thing that I am missing?
Also, immigration told me that it needs to be certified by the Korean consulate in Canada and can't be done at the Canadian embassy here, but there are people who said they have done that on this thread recently (nachoinkorea) and that it is OK. I know that immigration says different things depending on who you talk to and what time of day it is and how they feel at that moment, but does anybody know for sure? |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:39 am Post subject: |
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First off - when CRC started in Korea a few years ago. The Korean government wanted a check and they said yes to the VSS (Vunerable Sector Search). Well as it looked good and was sort of logically practical - us ESL teachers where working with kids. The problem was that the Canadian government said that it is not be used outside Canada or released to anybody for a check outside of Canada. Later the Korean government gave their node of understanding. So now the Korean government wants a Criminal Record Check (fingerprint) or Police Certificate (name check - I think)- no VSS needed. The VSS is also sort of extra record to get on top of the CRC. Thing of it like getting some fries and drink with a burger.
As to the Canadian embassy verification - for a while it worked. Then the Korean government changed its mind. I think ttompatz commented as of December 2010. But as you comment some people still seem to get away with it. The best thing is to do what the Korean government wants and verify it at the proper Korean consulate. Which adds trouble. Most people need a third person to help in Canada. Someone to copy and notarize the CRC. Go to or send the CRC to the consulate. If you want to try the Canadian Consulate route go ahead and try, but be prepared for rejection. Some Korean immi officials use logic, while others just look for the little stamp with Korean writing on it.
The consulates themselves are also the problem. Of the 4 - Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, and Vancouver. Vancouver gives details of what is fine and how to process. The other three are very vague and simple. So lets hope you have the Vancouver consulate.
At the Korean Vancouver consulate site it says,
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| - You must submit a Police Certificate or Criminal Record Check issued within the last 6 months only by RCMP or Municipal Police in BC, AB, SK, YK, and NWT. |
So Municipal is fine but that is the Vancouver one. The two other consulates say just criminal record check - no mention of RCMP or national. The embassy - nothing!
Give me a week or two and I can tell if Vancouver consulate accepted a municipal check I ordered from Korea.
If you are in Canada - I would recommend go to the RCMP and getting a name check. If you have the time try for a a electronic scan of your fingerprints
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/ps-sp-elect-eng.htm
Good Luck to all! |
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CPT
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:53 am Post subject: |
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For what it's worth, they have a handout at the Canadian Embassy that says they will do a notarization (it's actually under a big "Apostille" heading, which is weird, because I thought Canada didn't do apostilles) for $50 CDN. Don't know if you can just take that straight to immigration or not.
I think I'm just going to get someone at home to get it notarized/confirmed. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:58 am Post subject: |
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For what it's worth, they have a handout at the Canadian Embassy that says they will do a notarization (it's actually under a big "Apostille" heading, which is weird, because I thought Canada didn't do apostilles) for $50 CDN. Don't know if you can just take that straight to immigration or not.
I think I'm just going to get someone at home to get it notarized/confirmed. |
Well maybe that notarization can be helpful. So get check sent back to Korea. Go up to Seoul to get "Canada" Notarization. Then send the notartized check to Korean consulate in Canada. Then have it sent back to Canada.
Wee round the world we go! |
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CPT
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:52 am Post subject: |
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What is the best/fastest way to get this done if you don't have anyone at home available to do the legwork for you?
Will the RCMP send your check along with the money order straight to the Korean Consulate to be confirmed? They would have to hold onto the money order for the 3-4 months, right? This requires that third party consent form or letter?
And then, will the Korean Consulate accept the original, directly from the RCMP, instead of a notarized copy? It would make sense that they would, but if we went on what made sense when dealing with Korean immigration, we wouldn't get very far. Last time they were willing to confirm my original, but I had the notarized copy as well. |
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Weigookin74
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