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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| I'm going to get blind drunk in Itaewon tonight and celebrate the jobs that I might have stolen from this tool. I might even flash my CELTA cert around as well to show how easy it was. Anyone with me? |
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sallymonster
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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OP, have you thought about trying another country? There are public school English programs in Hong Kong and Taiwan that only hire teachers who are certified in their home countries.
If you feel so unappreciated in Korea, go somewhere that will appreciate you! |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
| I'm going to get blind drunk in Itaewon tonight and celebrate the jobs that I might have stolen from this tool. I might even flash my CELTA cert around as well to show how easy it was. Anyone with me? |
lol
Reading through this, I, like PatrickGHBusan, have no clue what the original poster hoped to foster in this thread. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| I'm going to get blind drunk in Itaewon tonight and celebrate the jobs that I might have stolen from this tool. I might even flash my CELTA cert around as well to show how easy it was. Anyone with me? |
lol
Reading through this, I, like PatrickGHBusan, have no clue what the original poster hoped to foster in this thread. |
I'm guessing controversy was the goal. The problem is that the certified teachers among us aren't even siding with him. |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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"This is your after thought after a failed attempt to get a job in your home country."
Some people, like you, enjoy traveling around the world. It's a big place.
Your comment might apply to some, but don't assume it's the case for the great many that have decided to work here.
If you're employable, you're employable. I don't care who you are.
As for myself, I am employable all over the world.
I'm a great teacher, a pretty handy builder, great with numbers, good with people, an excellent salesman, etc. University teaches you very little compared to what you teach yourself. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the same boat.
You do sound a bit pretentious, OP.
To be fair, there are a tremendous amount of douche bags
teaching here.
Additionally, there are those that do a fantastic job...and people like them.
Choosing to have a family is just that - a choice. Gotta provide for one more human being now. Kids aren't free. I know I'm stating the obvious, but we all make decisions. Just because you are finding it 'competitive' doesn't mean you should bash others for taking advantage of their opportunities. Have you seen 'School for Scoundrels'? It's mad corny, but there is a lesson for everyone. |
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nikki15
Joined: 02 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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As a teacher, it can be frustrating to see the people who do not take their job seriously here and do as minimal as possible, just regurgitating from a textbook.
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Stay on topic.... no need to start bashing Korean teachers. |
Umm...let's not just take one sentence of my entire post and pretend like I said something bad about all ESL teachers. I think you need to go back and read it again. I CLEARLY stated that it does not pertain to EVERYONE. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| I'm going to get blind drunk in Itaewon tonight and celebrate the jobs that I might have stolen from this tool. I might even flash my CELTA cert around as well to show how easy it was. Anyone with me? |
lol
Reading through this, I, like PatrickGHBusan, have no clue what the original poster hoped to foster in this thread. |
Odd isn't it? I mean either the OP is trolling or I have no idea what he wants here. |
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DIsbell
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
| I'm going to get blind drunk in Itaewon tonight and celebrate the jobs that I might have stolen from this tool. I might even flash my CELTA cert around as well to show how easy it was. Anyone with me? |
lol
Reading through this, I, like PatrickGHBusan, have no clue what the original poster hoped to foster in this thread. |
Odd isn't it? I mean either the OP is trolling or I have no idea what he wants here. |
Oh it's definitely trolling. If you start off saying "hey look I'm really not trolling" and then post something divisive and combative to a sizable group of people while tooting your own horn, and then close by saying "I'm sure I made a bunch of you mad..." it's obvious trolling.
"Hey look, I'm not trying to be racist but..... *blah blah racist stuff disparaging a group of people*" |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| When someones says, "I don't mean to be a dick but..", it usually means they are about to be a dick. |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:57 am Post subject: |
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You spent 5 years in college to end up working as an ESL teacher? I can see why you are upset and picking fights  |
I was thinking the same thing! 
And since when did going to Itaewon & being drunk have anything to do with certification and teaching? I think people like you are responsible for this sorry image and poor logical connection. Some of the best teachers and greatest educators were the biggest druggies, drunks, and social scumbags of the world. I'd even go as far as guessing that so were some of your own teachers. You know, there is something called a private life. And no, it doesn't always have to represent your profession.
Apparently, all your 5 years of education and preparation in the US were somehow totally swept aside when you got here and people told you that you had to be the pope to be a good teacher.
What use was accruing all those certifications & time if you've so quickly forgotten the roots of where it all came from?
But who knows, maybe you've been teaching here for longer than 5 years, which would explain why you're flashing badges and talking about morality and pedagogy in the same rant; you're confused. |
I agree, it shouldn't matter what people do in their private life as long as it doesn't affect their job. I wouldn't use the pope as a comparison though, some highly immoral people have filled that office in its long history.
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AlastairKirby
Joined: 29 Aug 2011
Location: UK
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:57 am Post subject: |
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The OP needs to let us in on his situation.
Why so angry?
I'm not a certified teacher. I have 3 years experience in Korea. But at the moment that counts for nothing. Young graduates from America are getting all the jobs.
But that's the game in Korea. It can be annoying to see people taking their life and jobs in Korea for granted...
However, where is the incentive not to? Why shouldn't people just come here to screw around and get drunk? It hardly ever gets punished.
Most people reach a point in their lives when they start to take themselves and their work more seriously. The majority of people coming to Korea just aren't at that point in their lives.
But in my case Korea made me want to change and start taking teaching seriously.
I don't have a time machine and can't go back in time to change my Film degree to an Education degree. Don't hate on people for not knowing what they wanted to do with their lives at 18 years old. |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| NovaKart wrote: |
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
| You spent 5 years in college to end up working as an ESL teacher? I can see why you are upset and picking fights |
I was thinking the same thing!
And since when did going to Itaewon & being drunk have anything to do with certification and teaching? I think people like you are responsible for this sorry image and poor logical connection. Some of the best teachers and greatest educators were the biggest druggies, drunks, and social scumbags of the world. I'd even go as far as guessing that so were some of your own teachers. You know, there is something called a private life. And no, it doesn't always have to represent your profession.
Apparently, all your 5 years of education and preparation in the US were somehow totally swept aside when you got here and people told you that you had to be the pope to be a good teacher.
What use was accruing all those certifications & time if you've so quickly forgotten the roots of where it all came from?
But who knows, maybe you've been teaching here for longer than 5 years, which would explain why you're flashing badges and talking about morality and pedagogy in the same rant; you're confused. |
I agree, it shouldn't matter what people do in their private life as long as it doesn't affect their job. I wouldn't use the pope as a comparison though, some highly immoral people have filled that office in its long history. |
Oh geez, please don't think that I'm endorsing the pope. I'm definitely not catholic. Just saying that's what people in Korea told the poor fellow in their mistaken believe that the pope is pristine clean.
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Yes, non-business majors jump into business all the time, and praise be to the little entrepreneurs around the world, but it's not like they TAKE OVER your office in down town L.A. and make the job you trained for for 5 years SCARCE (and make a mockery of it at the same time.)
That's the problem. |
But they compete with you - and isn't that what it always boils down to? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
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Yes, non-business majors jump into business all the time, and praise be to the little entrepreneurs around the world, but it's not like they TAKE OVER your office in down town L.A. and make the job you trained for for 5 years SCARCE (and make a mockery of it at the same time.)
That's the problem. |
But they compete with you - and isn't that what it always boils down to? |
True if he is applying through general recruiters for entry-level jobs. Otherwise, not so true.  |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have a time machine and can't go back in time to change my Film degree to an Education degree. Don't hate on people for not knowing what they wanted to do with their lives at 18 years old. |
Every American Boomer HR officer needs to understand this, as well. |
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