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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri



Joined: 09 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: 14-yr-old girl dies from vaccine Reply with quote

14 Year old California Girl Dies 14 Days Post-Gardasil Vaccination

Family Finds Adolescent Dead in Bed

October 20, 2011

Governor Brown Signs Parent�s Worst Nightmare into Law, Gives Custody of 12 Year Olds to the State

The fatality of a 14 year old California girl was entered into the VAERS database on August 23, 2011 � 134 days after her death in April. The latest Gardasil victim died of cardiac arrest 14 days after vaccination. According to VAERS report # 430780 , the adolescent was vaccinated on March 28, had no other life-threatening illnesses, and received no other vaccinations.

The VAERS write up includes this statement: �Found dead in bed in a.m. by family. Pathologist stated cause of death as consistent with cardiac insufficiency, due to cardiac arrhythmia, due to probable early cardiomyopathy. Child Death Review Team felt this death was consistent with a diagnosis of sudden cardiac death.�

The untimely and sad passing of this innocent previously healthy young girl now marks the 4th death post-HPV vaccination in the state of California. Janny Stokvis, VAERS Analyst for SANE Vax Inc. who found the latest VAERS fatality also reports that there have been 1548 adverse injuries* from Gardasil and Cervarix reported in the state.

California VAERS Reports on Adverse Injuries from HPV 4 Gardasil & HPV 2 Cervarix

Life Threatening � 25
Serious � 102
Emergency Room/Doctor Visits � 680
Hospitalization � 57
Extended Hospital Stays � 14
Did Not Recover � 249
Disabled � 46
Death � 4: ages 14, 19, 13, 16

*1 to 10% of the vaccinated population reporting

The Government of California now has Custody of 12 year old Children

SANE Vax Inc. wants to know, �Governor Brown � were you aware of the mounting injuries and deaths of innocent, previously healthy adolescents in the state of California before you signed AB 499 into law last week?�

The bill, sponsored by pharmaceutical giant Merck � the manufacturer of Gardasil, allows health care providers in the state of California to by-pass parental consent giving children as young as 12 years old the �power� to consent to Gardasil without their parents� knowledge...
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe in vaccination as a valuable tool in the prevention of disease. However, like all things it life, there is risk involved and it must be the choice and voluntary decision of the individual or the parents.

Any medical program, treatment, insurance or tax levied to create such a program that is mandated by the state is a form of fascism.

Anyone who believes in the liberty and the rights of individuals to live free, safe, peaceful lives must oppose such fascist laws. Jerry Brown has always seen people as cattle, a herd to be managed, and the loss of a few head for the good of the herd is fine by him - anther hallmark of a fascist-socialist.
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comm



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
I believe in vaccination as a valuable tool in the prevention of disease. However, like all things it life, there is risk involved and it must be the choice and voluntary decision of the individual or the parents.

Any medical program, treatment, insurance or tax levied to create such a program that is mandated by the state is a form of fascism.

Anyone who believes in the liberty and the rights of individuals to live free, safe, peaceful lives must oppose such fascist laws. Jerry Brown has always seen people as cattle, a herd to be managed, and the loss of a few head for the good of the herd is fine by him - anther hallmark of a fascist-socialist.


QFT
Everyone should have the right to destroy their bodies with drugs, alcohol, or viruses that they could have been vaccinated for. It's their body and their decision.
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Leon



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any proof of this from any where other than a website called sanevax.... Isn't this the same sort of BS that Michelle Bachman has been taken to task for lately, with scientists saying that there are no records of death from this?
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
Is there any proof of this from any where other than a website called sanevax.... Isn't this the same sort of BS that Michelle Bachman has been taken to task for lately, with scientists saying that there are no records of death from this?


Yeah, the article doesn't even provide causality. It's like saying, "She drank a Pepsi and subsequently died," therefore she died from Pepsi.
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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I guess you don't believe that smoking cigarettes can cause lung cancer either since we can't prove it. Rolling Eyes

Of the billions of websites in the world, you think I found the only one that says anything like that? Would you believe the National Vaccine Information Center to which doctors have reported over 22,000 adverse effects including 82 deaths just from Gardisil?
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northway



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cite a source not from the anti-vaccine camp and you might be on to something.
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jrwhite82



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe there was a fan on in the room with no ventilation. It caused her to have hyper-hypothermia which then prevented her from breathing because the air molecules were chopped up by the fan blades. And the fast moving air acted as a convection oven and caused her to die.

Rolling Eyes

Nothing it that article proves it was the vaccine.
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alwaysgood



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The risk of dying from cervical cancer as a complication of HPV is higher than the risk of dying from complications from the vaccine.

People are making a big deal about this mandatory vaccination (but don't seem to mind that infants have to be vaccinated against measles) because this is protecting against an STD. Parents don't want to acknowledge the fact that their daughters will probably have sex at some point in their lives and that there are risks associated with that. Most of these are the same people that were pushing for abstinence only education in sex ed classes.

By opposing vaccinations and contraception people are increasing their children's risk of STD's. They want to continue to live in a fantasy world where their children will wait until marriage to have sex with partners who also waited until they were married.

Of course there are some paranoid people out there who oppose all vaccines as they are government conspiracies to control people. Of course fluoridation is a government plot too right?. Speaking of which, have you ever seen a commie with a glass of water? Cue General Ripper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHNYenN7OY
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Birder



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alwaysgood wrote:
The risk of dying from cervical cancer as a complication of HPV is higher than the risk of dying from complications from the vaccine.

People are making a big deal about this mandatory vaccination (but don't seem to mind that infants have to be vaccinated against measles) because this is protecting against an STD. Parents don't want to acknowledge the fact that their daughters will probably have sex at some point in their lives and that there are risks associated with that. Most of these are the same people that were pushing for abstinence only education in sex ed classes.

By opposing vaccinations and contraception people are increasing their children's risk of STD's. They want to continue to live in a fantasy world where their children will wait until marriage to have sex with partners who also waited until they were married.

Of course there are some paranoid people out there who oppose all vaccines as they are government conspiracies to control people. Of course fluoridation is a government plot too right?. Speaking of which, have you ever seen a commie with a glass of water? Cue General Ripper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHNYenN7OY


Wow. Someone finally making sense on this thread. Kudos.

Mankind has eliminated smallpox by way of vaccines. It's possible some of the people given that shot died from an adverse reaction. I know this doesn't console the family that lost a person in such a circumstance, but to decry vaccines en masse would end up resulting in a magnitudes of people people dying from the disease itself. Waking up every morning is a risk. I'll err on the side of vaccinations, and cry if a loved one dies from complications, but I will not throw the baby out with the bath water on this. Numbers don't lie. More lives are saved than lost, even if you can prove that some few lives have been lost to any specific vaccine.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that vaccination should not be a choice. Even assuming that people have legitimate reasons for not vaccinating their children (which is definitely questionable), the risks are extremely low. In choosing not to vaccinate your children, you are piggybacking on the risk other parents take in the name of societal good. This is fine on a small scale, but if every parent made that decision we'd be pretty screwed. Come on people, just vaccinate your kids.
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Birder



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that vaccination should not be a choice. Even assuming that people have legitimate reasons for not vaccinating their children (which is definitely questionable), the risks are extremely low. In choosing not to vaccinate your children, you are piggybacking on the risk other parents take in the name of societal good. This is fine on a small scale, but if every parent made that decision we'd be pretty screwed. Come on people, just vaccinate your kids.


exactly
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that vaccination should not be a choice. Even assuming that people have legitimate reasons for not vaccinating their children (which is definitely questionable), the risks are extremely low. In choosing not to vaccinate your children, you are piggybacking on the risk other parents take in the name of societal good. This is fine on a small scale, but if every parent made that decision we'd be pretty screwed. Come on people, just vaccinate your kids.


...ouch...on so many levels.
Governments in bed with big business love this kind of mentality.
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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:
northway wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that vaccination should not be a choice. Even assuming that people have legitimate reasons for not vaccinating their children (which is definitely questionable), the risks are extremely low. In choosing not to vaccinate your children, you are piggybacking on the risk other parents take in the name of societal good. This is fine on a small scale, but if every parent made that decision we'd be pretty screwed. Come on people, just vaccinate your kids.


...ouch...on so many levels.
Governments in bed with big business love this kind of mentality.


Please explain how it's not piggybacking on the immunity of others if you choose not to vaccinate your children.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
The Cosmic Hum wrote:
northway wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that vaccination should not be a choice. Even assuming that people have legitimate reasons for not vaccinating their children (which is definitely questionable), the risks are extremely low. In choosing not to vaccinate your children, you are piggybacking on the risk other parents take in the name of societal good. This is fine on a small scale, but if every parent made that decision we'd be pretty screwed. Come on people, just vaccinate your kids.


...ouch...on so many levels.
Governments in bed with big business love this kind of mentality.


Please explain how it's not piggybacking on the immunity of others if you choose not to vaccinate your children.



The people who choose to vaccinate are safe.

The people who choose not to vaccinate are not safe.

There is, therefore, no piggybacking. No vaccine = not safe.


But, people, in a free society have the right to choose. Period. People who do not choose to get vaccines might be stupid, at least in your eyes. It could be they're wrong, but free people have the right to be wrong.

You have the right to believe the world is flat or round, the right to believe in god or not, the right to refuse to fly and always take trains and buses, the right to believe in evolution or a 5,000 year old earth, the right to use drugs, smoke, drink, gamble, skydive, ride your motorcycle with no helmet, go to prostitutes, be a prostitute ...

It's your body, your life, your right ... and your decision not to vaccinate hurts no one but yourself, and maybe your kids if you're the parent - but so does teaching your kid to be a socialist, you corrupt their minds and make them into fools.

When you use force to deny people the freedom to choose, you are a fascist-socialist - and it doesn't matter that you think you are right or that the things you want to force people to do or prevent them from doing might be good for them. Even if your intentions are good, you are still an evil fascist-socialist and you have no right to use the force of government to help people any more than you have the right to use force to injure people.


Forcing people to vaccinate is fascism.
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