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School field trips to Dokdo could begin next year
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:13 pm    Post subject: School field trips to Dokdo could begin next year Reply with quote

Pack your bags!

http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2943165&cloc=joongangdaily|home|newslist1

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Starting next year, elementary, middle and high school students could have a new destination for their next field trip: the disputed Dokdo islets.

The Korean Federation of Teachers� Association said yesterday that it was in discussions with cruise lines, including Daea Express Shipping, to begin field trip programs to Dokdo for the country�s students to coincide with the organization�s Dokdo Day next year, set for Oct. 25, 2012.

The KFTA said school field trips on cruises would �no doubt be a new adventurous experience� for students, adding that they would also reduce teachers� burden of chaperoning their charges around the clock as is often the case on school trips.

�As school field trips on a cruise would provide students with a historical and educational experience, we ask the government and businesses to provide administrative and financial support for this program,� said a KFTA official.

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jamesd



Joined: 15 Aug 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll have to fly me there because I'll get seasick.
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go if the school toke me. Although, it would be quite boring for the students.
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No_hite_pls wrote:
I would go if the school toke me.

Are you an illegal substance? Very Happy
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now kids are forced to see a peice of rock as part of their indoctrination?
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was a student going to Dokdo I'd take my fishing rod.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Korean teachers want to pack a whole bunch of kids on buses, drive them half way around the country, then put them on a boat to go look at a rock. These people think WE ARE THE UNQUALIFIED LOSERS!
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northway



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that sounds even worse than Plymouth Rock.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see this as a good thing. We've all seen the glorified pictures they spread all over the place making it look like some kind of paradise. Now kids - the most objective observers of all - will get to see the uninhabitable, cold, windy, seagull-poop covered rocks for what they really are: uninhabitable, cold, windy and seagull-poop covered. Then maybe a generation down the road the hysteria will finally end.
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carpetdope



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
seagull-poop covered rocks...


Unfortunately it's not just seagulls that are to blame (if Wiki is to be believed):

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The sewage water treatment system established on the islets has malfunctioned and sewage water produced by inhabitants of Liancourt Rocks such as South Korean Coast Guard and lighthouse staff is being dumped directly into the ocean. Significant water pollution has been observed; sea water has turned milky white, sea vegetation is progressively dying off, and calcification of coral reefs is spreading. The pollution is also causing loss of biodiversity in the surrounding seas. In November 2004, eight tons of malodorous sludge was being dumped into the ocean every day.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokdo#Pollution_and_environmental_destruction
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
Now kids are forced to see a peice of rock as part of their indoctrination?


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So Korean teachers want to pack a whole bunch of kids on buses, drive them half way around the country, then put them on a boat to go look at a rock. These people think WE ARE THE UNQUALIFIED LOSERS!


It's not necessarily a waste of time.

In theory if such an event was taught properly, with everything from history, to politics, to biology, meteorology and geology being involved, it might make sense.

The problem is it will involve anything but that in all likelihood.....

I mean my school once took a field trip out to an island rock, but it actually involved those things and was a great experience.

If its a bunch of stupid chants, songs, and rants then yeah, bring the fishing pole.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carpetdope wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
seagull-poop covered rocks...


Unfortunately it's not just seagulls that are to blame (if Wiki is to be believed):

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The sewage water treatment system established on the islets has malfunctioned and sewage water produced by inhabitants of Liancourt Rocks such as South Korean Coast Guard and lighthouse staff is being dumped directly into the ocean. Significant water pollution has been observed; sea water has turned milky white, sea vegetation is progressively dying off, and calcification of coral reefs is spreading. The pollution is also causing loss of biodiversity in the surrounding seas. In November 2004, eight tons of malodorous sludge was being dumped into the ocean every day.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokdo#Pollution_and_environmental_destruction


8 TONS A DAY? I thought there were only like a handful of people living and working on Dokdo. They must be getting a LOT of fiber in their diets.
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very dumb idea. These trips will almost certainly be done in place of the usual trips that kids take to either Jeju, or Gyeongju. If I were to stay here long enough and found that my kids' school was going to opt for this trip instead of those others, I'd be pretty upset. But I see some teachers are all for it as it would "reduce the burden" of chaperoning their students.
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r122925



Joined: 02 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First year students at my high school already took a trip to Dokdo earlier this year. At least that's what they'll say if you ask them where they went. In reality they went to Ulleungdo for a couple of days and on the way home the boat went past Dokdo so the students could see it.

So what does the article actually mean? Are they actually going to let the students get off the boat and walk around on Dokdo? Or are they just expanding the program that my students did to more schools?
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FloridaGator314



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if the Japanese find it amusing how much they've gotten the Koreans to obsess over 2 meaningless rocks in the middle of the ocean.
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