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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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In regards to your email, I was presented with the chance to interview with another program. I did interview. I currently have no plans to resign with XXX, but if I did I would intend to do it according to the terms in my contract or in a manner or time schedule that would be agreeable.
I do fully plan to continue to conduct myself in a professional manner even if I am interviewing at other schools in the future and I understand that I would need XXXX's letter of release. Were I to seek release, I would do my best to ensure everyone's best interests were kept, such as finding new teachers and paying back airfare costs (as per the contract's indemnity clause). The school can also be assured that this matter will be kept private from other teachers, as per the contract.
Let me know if you have more questions. |
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Thank you for understanding to be agreeable to the contract.
However, the school has big concern.
The school keeps getting complains about you from the parents which is not usual situation.
The parents usually do not complain about the foreign teachers, but the school keeps receiving complains about you.
The recent complain what the school got was, that you don't seem check the students' homework in detail.
The parents complained that you only give the scores to the students without correcting or commenting about their mistake.
Even if it's true or not, it's always unhappy for the school to receive any complains. Especially, if this is limited to one teacher over and over, the school
gets frustrating.
This is not the first time hearing complains about you from the parents, so the school is very afraid of the situation.
If you wish to keep working at XXXX until you find a new job offer in Seoul, the school requires you to be more focused on what you are doing at school for you and for the school.
This is all what the school wants from you for now.
I hope that everything goes well. So, for now, I think you should be more considered what the school requires you at work in order to keep the good relationship.
Thank you.
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So yeah, they're lording the LoR over my head. Most of their problems are due to their own f'ed up system, as you'll see in my older posts. It's a blame-the-teacher-first attitude at this hagwon.
However, I also have the necessary documents to get another E-2 visa with me right now, such as an apostilled diploma and FBI CRC. I think my next response shoud be threatening them that I could simply ditch them and get a new job anyways but I'd rather everyone took the easy route and gave me a LoR. I can also threaten to take them to the labor board for taxing me too high, I might also use that to add to my hand. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, if they are taxing you too high (as in you know for sure) I would be going to the labor board NOW.
It will look a lot better if they attempt to fire you AFTER you complain to the labor board after the tax.
You're already on your way out of there -- they're now looking to fire you, and for the best way of doing that while keeping their nose clean and making you look bad.
I have no doubts about it! |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I do it when I am there, but I do agree with what you are saying about making a big deal out of it, they don't own the guy.
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I have done exactly the opposite, I always tell the people I am leaving that I need a reference and the reason why I am leaving. Then if they can fix it or match the price I will consider it.
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| When I interviewed at other jobs in the past, I made damn sure they promised not to contact my current school. I had other references to give them, though. If you had mentioned such, and they called anyway, putting your job in jeopardy, I would go there and raise hell for it. |
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yeah... But do you do that a few months into the contract, like the OP, or between contracts? |
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Spionen
Joined: 15 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Gorf wrote: |
Thank you for understanding to be agreeable to the contract.
However, the school has big concern.
The school keeps getting complains about you from the parents which is not usual situation.
The parents usually do not complain about the foreign teachers, but the school keeps receiving complains about you.
The recent complain what the school got was, that you don't seem check the students' homework in detail.
The parents complained that you only give the scores to the students without correcting or commenting about their mistake.
Even if it's true or not, it's always unhappy for the school to receive any complains. Especially, if this is limited to one teacher over and over, the school
gets frustrating.
This is not the first time hearing complains about you from the parents, so the school is very afraid of the situation.
If you wish to keep working at XXXX until you find a new job offer in Seoul, the school requires you to be more focused on what you are doing at school for you and for the school.
This is all what the school wants from you for now.
I hope that everything goes well. So, for now, I think you should be more considered what the school requires you at work in order to keep the good relationship.
Thank you. |
It's shit like this that makes me thankful every day that I'm not at my school in Korea anymore. Could this be more transparent? "Foreign teacher doing something we don't like? Quick! Damage control! Accuse him of something! The worse we can make him feel and the more we can tar him as a bad teacher, the better!"
I always got the sense that my boss was trying to one-up me. Every time I would bring a concern to him about my pension, not getting my lunch hour, whatever, he would invariably come back within 24 hours with a totally unverifiable complaint about the parents not liking that I did xyz or whatever. Some of them may have been valid, I have no way of knowing, but I'm pretty sure that he just liked to keep me on my toes by making sure that there was always SOMETHING I felt like I could be fired for if I rocked the boat at all. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:03 am Post subject: |
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The above poster is right.
Isn't it funny that they have said nothing to you of this homework situation until you started looking for a new job. (Unless you're not telling us something).
Even then, how hard is it to fix this problem? It is so minuscule it is laughable. The recruiter makes it seem like you not writing down a sentence on each kids homework is this offensive act that you have committed that is very difficult to correct.
And is anyone nieve enough to believe that a significant number of parents are complaining that you aren't writing comments on homework assignments? Is it possible? Sure...
But if it was a real issue you'd be damn sure the director would have got on your arse about it by now. (Unless you're not telling us something). |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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These stupid hagwons only charge tuition monthly. Stupid racket. Boss says "Students/Parents are complaining," they probably are. Bosses probably just save it for optimal situations and get someone working on having a replacement ready if they're smart. Thing is, they're not that smart. If you're ready to leave at the drop of a hat, that gets puts them between a rock and a hard place. Usually FTs aren't ready, so that gives the haggie swindlers a little room to wiggle. They just don't factor in someone being smart/ready enough to say "Well, the hell with this." Oh no. Don't deprive the students of an education, you bad FT. Pfft.
Run, Terry, run. |
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Gorf
Joined: 25 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| I've got another FBI background check and diploma copy coming to me. how much sway will that bring me when telling them I need a letter of release. Sort of a "I could leave right now, but let's make it easy on all of us and just gimme the LoR"? Or am I still underestimating the craziness of my hagwon boss? |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Tell them you are offended by their false accusations, and would like to meet the parents who complained. Oh, and tell them you have an interpreter to help. Watch them dance and play the whiny Korean liar routine and attempt to blame you.
As I said, you won't be there long. They are now looking for someone else and will drop you when that person is found. In the meantime, they will concoct lies and stories to claim how you were such a terrible teacher that they HAD to fire you.
As I stated, find the tax man, and labor board, and burn this owner alive. Or you will be the one crying.
Believe me, a call or visit from the tax office will scare the daylights out of your boss. And you are gone anyway.... May as well be on your terms. |
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