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Bee stings, scraped knees, and other childhood boo-boos....
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As a child growing up, did you ever get stung by a bee?
Yes, of course -- hasn't everyone?
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No, never -- but I was lucky. Just about everyone else I know has been stung.
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Yes, but it was a big deal -- I am lucky to be alive!
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No, never -- does this actually happen to people?
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was stung by plenty of bees - 5 at once one time. Neighbor had a retaining wall made of old railroad ties, had a nest in one. Friends dared me to put a stick in it. They didn't like that one bit... Got stung by one of the blue hornets once too - that one REALLY stung. Of course, I was maybe 5 years old when that happened, so maybe I'm remembering it wrong. Also had one of those giant mud daubers, about 2 inches long or so, thick as a man's thumb. That guy was WICKED looking and I avoided getting stung by that one, thank goodness.

Friend of mine was stung by one of those Japanese Killer Hornets about two years back, over by Dongdaemun. Right on the back of the neck. Considering those things can kill a person, we went to the doctor, but all she got was some aspirin - she ended up alright, but her neck was red and sore for a few days.

As far as scraped knees, look at girls here. I see tons of woman in Korea with bandaids/scrapes on their knees. All jokes and innuendo aside, the kids are probably b.s.ing you. I've seen plenty of kids take a spill in my time here. As far as shots go, I was at the hospital today and saw a kid, probably five or six years old, having blood drawn. That kid was screaming to high heaven - either "it hurts" or "daddy" - I couldn't tell what his inflection was with all the screaming he was doing...

Remember, Koreans like to stick together. If one kid says "no," the others will generally fall in line behind them. I bet if you get one kid to say he was stung/skinned his knee/hates needles, you'll get some others to say that too.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
I bet if you get one kid to say he was stung/skinned his knee/hates needles, you'll get some others to say that too.

Very possible the students just didn't understand the question, or meaning, of sting and skinned...
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
nathanrutledge wrote:
I bet if you get one kid to say he was stung/skinned his knee/hates needles, you'll get some others to say that too.

Very possible the students just didn't understand the question, or meaning, of sting and skinned...


While both of those are usually likely explanations, in this case, neither was correct -- it was not a case of "go along with what one guy said," nor was it a case of not understanding.... Either of those would have made more sense to me, and would not have inspired this thread....
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How often do you see Korean kids running around barefoot on lawns with a bit of clover?

But I'd say I observe a normal incidence of scrapes, bruises, & broken bones.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
I think it's interesting that I was indeed stung almost every Summer as a kid........but never as an adult. I think I was probably about 12 the last time I was stung.

Why have I not been stung for the last 30 years.......but used to be stung every year as a kid? Do wasps get more aggressive around kids?


You got stung because you were a kid and therefore were less aware of hornets/bees and more active which probably agitated them.

As an adult, you react differently to wasps, hornets and bees.

Just my theory.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been stung, and I don't think it was very common among people I know. We were always told to keep very still if there were bees flying around us and they probably wouldn't sting.

My sister did get stung once, though.

I'm Canadian.
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coralreefer_1



Joined: 19 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive never been stung by an actual bee, but had more than a few yellow jacket stings. The first I can recall was in middle school, trash can out in the schoolyard full of freshly empties soda cans, and I was nearby and got stung. After that a few more as I was working a summer job as a high school student on a residential recycling route (again, bins full of soda cans left around for days)

Interestingly enough, I have been stung in Korea twice...both times while riding my motorcycle. One wound up the sleeve of my jacket, the other bounced off my chest and got wedged in my helmet.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so then, what would be an experientially-accessible standard for pain comparison? This whole question came up as a result of saying that something "hurt about as much as a bee sting." Does anyone know what common Korean experience of childhood "hurts about as much as a bee sting?" Mosquito bites don't cut it -- too small a measure. Suggestions?

Oh, yeah -- whacks with a love stick vary too widely -- different teachers apparently put differing amounts of oomph into them, though I have heard some interesting comparative discussions on the subject (with Mr. See-Blood as the high water mark).
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DejaVu



Joined: 27 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
OK, so then, what would be an experientially-accessible standard for pain comparison? This whole question came up as a result of saying that something "hurt about as much as a bee sting." Does anyone know what common Korean experience of childhood "hurts about as much as a bee sting?" Mosquito bites don't cut it -- too small a measure. Suggestions?


Maybe a medical shot? I assume children here have received a vaccine or two. It's a kind of similar feeling though it doesn't last as long.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing really does compare. Bee stings hurt at a fairly moderate level, and they keep hurting - that burning sensation. Medical shots are in/out/down, to fast to compare.

Anyway, out of curiosity, I asked my university students - out of about 60 students, only 2 have been stung. When I told them I've lost count of my bee stings, they were quite shocked. Crazy stuff....
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Skipperoo



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been stung by a bee/wasp/hornet and I led a fairly active childhood. Nearly happened once because my brother threw a rock at a wasp's nest, but I guess I got out of the way or something.

I see my students with scrapes, bruises and broken bones almost every day of the week. I don't know if these kids are getting into serious accidents or whether Korean people just throw a cast on any old injury, but it's a very common sight to see a kid with a cast on their leg or hand.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DejaVu wrote:
thegadfly wrote:
OK, so then, what would be an experientially-accessible standard for pain comparison? This whole question came up as a result of saying that something "hurt about as much as a bee sting." Does anyone know what common Korean experience of childhood "hurts about as much as a bee sting?" Mosquito bites don't cut it -- too small a measure. Suggestions?


Maybe a medical shot? I assume children here have received a vaccine or two. It's a kind of similar feeling though it doesn't last as long.


Actually that was my second go-to, but they claimed that the shots didn't hurt at all -- like literally, no pain whatsoever. Only 2 of 15 students could recall getting a painful shot (like the vaccinations), and most of them said that they could not even remember ever getting a shot.

Trust me -- I thought they were taking the piss at first, but they were absolutely serious, and eventually I was forced to take them at their word...which left me without any referents.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Bee stings, scraped knees, and other childhood boo-boos. Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
During a discussion with my 5th grade elementary school students

This probably explains it here. It's hard having a 'discussion' with 5th grade elementary students, even in your own language. Attention spans are just too short and not enough experience to really discuss anything.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember middle school kids having to get shots or something a couple times a year and coming back rubbing their shoulders. Dunno, my memory of it is a bit rusty. Maybe all your students have rusty memories, too.
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laynamarya



Joined: 01 Jan 2010
Location: Gwangjin-gu

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been stung three times, I think two of those were yellow jackets, but can't be absolutely sure.

My husband (who is Korean) says he was stung several times as a kid, and I was with him when he was stung last year, too. So was the friend we were hiking with. I escaped unscathed, that time.

I think much of it has to do with city life vs. suburbs/rural areas. We're both from the suburbs (near Seoul and Boston), where beneficial insects tend to be more plentiful. I'm sure this is more closely related to that scary mosquito pesticide that they spray in Seoul than the lack of flora in public spaces around here.

And, as another poster mentioned, most kids tend to hole up in their academies and bedrooms during the time they ought to be outside getting bruises and scrapes and stings. A lot of kids can't name even the most common species of plants, in any language.

Tragic, really.
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