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nero



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="PatrickGHBusan"]
hari seldon wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I wonder how many of the people bothered by the stares coming home from work on the weekdays engage in "look at me" antics/attention grabbing attire at other times in their lives.

"Don't stare at me, oh and I'll be at the flashmob in Insadong on Saturday." Rolling Eyes

Many people are consistent in their behavior and keep a low profile.

Others I think might be a little bi-polar about the whole attention thing.


A gyopo wouldn't understand.[/quote]

Wow..are you serious???

Did you really type that bile up?


Well, think about it. If someone looks asian they are hardly likely to be stared at as hard as a caucasian person, right?
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WadRUG'naDoo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="PatrickGHBusan"]
hari seldon wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I wonder how many of the people bothered by the stares coming home from work on the weekdays engage in "look at me" antics/attention grabbing attire at other times in their lives.

"Don't stare at me, oh and I'll be at the flashmob in Insadong on Saturday." Rolling Eyes

Many people are consistent in their behavior and keep a low profile.

Others I think might be a little bi-polar about the whole attention thing.


A gyopo wouldn't understand.[/quote]

Wow..are you serious???

Did you really type that bile up?


Well, I know what I'm staring at. You Patrick. Because you look so hot in those rose-colored glasses! Ooh my!
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travel zen



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did I insult them? Is it considered an insult to be called an Asian person? You said it, not me...

My take on it is that I was called a foreigner loud enough for me to hear it. The boy wanted me to hear it, and the other boys made it clear that they wanted me to hear their laughter as a response to seeing a foreigner. I believe that by saying "Wa! An Asian person!", they could at least see how stupid their behavior is. If not that, then they can at least understand that I know what they are saying. To me, they were just people until they yelled something at me.


I do that all the time in Toronto. Loads of chinese just off the boat and zero manners here. They say 'Wa, black person' So i say "Wa, yellow person' back.
Do they learn? Of course not. Shocked
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I wonder how many of the people bothered by the stares coming home from work on the weekdays engage in "look at me" antics/attention grabbing attire at other times in their lives.

"Don't stare at me, oh and I'll be at the flashmob in Insadong on Saturday." Rolling Eyes

Many people are consistent in their behavior and keep a low profile.

Others I think might be a little bi-polar about the whole attention thing.


A gyopo wouldn't understand.



Pffft. In your dreams. As soon as one of Ay-sans opens our mouths the stares come out and the usual antics from the more clueless of the locals follows. Then comes that wonderful question "일본 사람?" followed by some lecture on how the persons Korean isn't perfect or that they are engaged in bad manners.

I was with a girl I was seeing and two kids from our elementary school age church group. The two kids had grown up in California and were fluent. My girl's English wasn't bad either. That dinner was the most interrupted dinner in my life. The two elementary students were constantly peppered with requests to speak in English and other students gawking at them. Midway through they switched to Korean to be left alone.

But you know what? It's not the end of the world. I'm not angry and bitter about it. Just give everyone the queen's wave or ignore them or even, gasp, be nice to them and engage them in conversation. Ask them if their kids go to your school/hagwon. Hand out business cards.

I mean if you want to do something proactive, nothing like that person who was staring showing up a week later at your hagwon and saying they want to start taking classes because they met you on the street and thought you were nice.

But no, put on the sunglasses, blast the ipod and glare at people or snap back. Yeah, that's the way to do things. All the while engaging in antics at night or on the weekend designed to draw attention to yourself. Then whine when people stare.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="nero"]
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I wonder how many of the people bothered by the stares coming home from work on the weekdays engage in "look at me" antics/attention grabbing attire at other times in their lives.

"Don't stare at me, oh and I'll be at the flashmob in Insadong on Saturday." Rolling Eyes

Many people are consistent in their behavior and keep a low profile.

Others I think might be a little bi-polar about the whole attention thing.


A gyopo wouldn't understand.[/quote]

Wow..are you serious???

Did you really type that bile up?


Well, think about it. If someone looks asian they are hardly likely to be stared at as hard as a caucasian person, right?



If a gyopo speaks English pretty much all the time and hangs out with other foreigners at all..I'm pretty sure he or she will have a fairly good understanding of what it feels like to be stared at.

In other words it depends on the gyopo and NOT because s/he is a gyopo...that's just a sad viewpoint.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I wonder how many of the people bothered by the stares coming home from work on the weekdays engage in "look at me" antics/attention grabbing attire at other times in their lives.

"Don't stare at me, oh and I'll be at the flashmob in Insadong on Saturday." Rolling Eyes

Many people are consistent in their behavior and keep a low profile.

Others I think might be a little bi-polar about the whole attention thing.


A gyopo wouldn't understand.



Pffft. In your dreams. As soon as one of Ay-sans opens our mouths the stares come out and the usual antics from the more clueless of the locals follows. Then comes that wonderful question "일본 사람?" followed by some lecture on how the persons Korean isn't perfect or that they are engaged in bad manners.

I was with a girl I was seeing and two kids from our elementary school age church group. The two kids had grown up in California and were fluent. My girl's English wasn't bad either. That dinner was the most interrupted dinner in my life. The two elementary students were constantly peppered with requests to speak in English and other students gawking at them. Midway through they switched to Korean to be left alone.

But you know what? It's not the end of the world. I'm not angry and bitter about it. Just give everyone the queen's wave or ignore them or even, gasp, be nice to them and engage them in conversation. Ask them if their kids go to your school/hagwon. Hand out business cards.

I mean if you want to do something proactive, nothing like that person who was staring showing up a week later at your hagwon and saying they want to start taking classes because they met you on the street and thought you were nice.

But no, put on the sunglasses, blast the ipod and glare at people or snap back. Yeah, that's the way to do things. All the while engaging in antics at night or on the weekend designed to draw attention to yourself. Then whine when people stare.


I have no interest in trying to get students.

I do not engage in "antics" that would draw attention to myself.

Yet I still dislike people staring at me and mine, pointing at us, and calling us names.

Is that so hard to understand?
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't engage in "look at me" antics. I get stares.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yet I still dislike people staring at me and mine, pointing at us, and calling us names.


Yup, life sucks.

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I don't engage in "look at me" antics. I get stares.


Well I know you and the Cap'N don't, more referring to the subset of the NET population out there that does engage in antics and drunken buffoonery and then whines when people stare at them.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. Usually I just ignore it or smile, depending on the vibe. Sometimes I stare back. All those staring contests with my little sister are finally paying off!
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Quote:


Yet I still dislike people staring at me and mine, pointing at us, and calling us names.


Yup, life sucks.

Quote:
I don't engage in "look at me" antics. I get stares.


Well I know you and the Cap'N don't, more referring to the subset of the NET population out there that does engage in antics and drunken buffoonery and then whines when people stare at them.


Precisely!

Some (read again SOME) of us (NETs, wayguks) create our own problems when it comes to staring.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="nero"]
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I wonder how many of the people bothered by the stares coming home from work on the weekdays engage in "look at me" antics/attention grabbing attire at other times in their lives.

"Don't stare at me, oh and I'll be at the flashmob in Insadong on Saturday." Rolling Eyes

Many people are consistent in their behavior and keep a low profile.

Others I think might be a little bi-polar about the whole attention thing.


A gyopo wouldn't understand.[/quote]

Wow..are you serious???

Did you really type that bile up?


Well, think about it. If someone looks asian they are hardly likely to be stared at as hard as a caucasian person, right?


Depends on where in asia they would come from. They could get fewer stares and if thats all you meant, carry on.

However being a gyopo would not prevent someone from understanding these issues...
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="WadRUG'naDoo"]
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
I wonder how many of the people bothered by the stares coming home from work on the weekdays engage in "look at me" antics/attention grabbing attire at other times in their lives.

"Don't stare at me, oh and I'll be at the flashmob in Insadong on Saturday." Rolling Eyes

Many people are consistent in their behavior and keep a low profile.

Others I think might be a little bi-polar about the whole attention thing.


A gyopo wouldn't understand.[/quote]

Wow..are you serious???

Did you really type that bile up?


Well, I know what I'm staring at. You Patrick. Because you look so hot in those rose-colored glasses! Ooh my!


Well, no rose colored glasses my friend, never wore them. I will critize things that warrant criticism and if you had bothered to read back you would have seen I said SOME staring is borne of ignorance but a lot of it is curiosity and benign. Now you want to get aggravated over it go for it! I had better things to do with my time in Korea other than focus or worry about some 70 year old harabogi who stared at me as I walked by. Why would I care what he things anyway??? Good grief.
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