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Stood up to a hagwon owner today.
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ibeattheborg



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: the deep blue sea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tigerstyleone wrote:
Illysook is not in Korea. He's a fantasy posting what if scenarios.

Don't waste your time.


Illysook is actually a woman who is in her third year in Korea. We eagerly anticipate your next announcement, Tigerstyleone.
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rowdie3



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Location: Itaewon, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, being a stickler for those things is really not going to get you the best jobs sometimes. Some jobs offer pension/medical, others don't. If you get the 'private contractor' thing and you don't get them, then just set up private medical insurance. I have two legal jobs on my E2 visa. Neither of them offer pension/medical. I am doubling the average salary and got my private insurance set up through a third (legal) job. If you insist on these things just cause you read on Dave's that you should, then you are passing up some good opportunities.
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why wouldn't someone just walk out of an interview when they said no pension or medical? What's the point of getting someone on the phone? You'd just be in a fight later and get fired.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once took a job like that, because I'm over 45, male and every other place I applied at wouldn't give me the time of day.

Experience meant nothing to most of them.


I had been looking for a job for over a month and was running short of cash.

This was about 5 years ago, when the job market was much better.


I think you get the picture.


I wouldn't say it was my best career move, but it did get me out of a tight

situation.

To the guy who says these can be "good opportunities", I beg to differ.


It was probably one of the worst hagwons I ever worked at, if that means anything. I would never do it again.

The guy was cheap, cheap, cheap, wouldn't buy proper resources, short changed anyone and everyone he could.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rowdie3 wrote:
Honestly, being a stickler for those things is really not going to get you the best jobs sometimes. Some jobs offer pension/medical, others don't. If you get the 'private contractor' thing and you don't get them, then just set up private medical insurance. I have two legal jobs on my E2 visa. Neither of them offer pension/medical. I am doubling the average salary and got my private insurance set up through a third (legal) job. If you insist on these things just cause you read on Dave's that you should, then you are passing up some good opportunities.


Indeed. Few yrs back I had 2 pt jobs and neither offered housing, pension or health insurance. I worked 1 - 10pm (minus 3 hrs travelling time) cleared around 3.8mil a month and rented my own 4 rooom 25 pyeong apt in Seoul and took home 3.4mil after paying my rent. Not bad for 6 hrs of teaching a day and about an hr prep and a few hrs reading on the bus or subway.

I found that these sort of jobs are harder to get with just an e2 now though and all the pt jobs and as gigs I see want f visas.

Anyone find it not to be the case (I guess rowdie, obviously...)..?

I could do with a good pt gig on top of my current ft.....
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