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munybse
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| I always found it ironic that the champions of the MLB, NBA and NFL are referred to as "world champs". It's not like they play teams outside the continent. |
No but the best in the world do play in the league. |
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munybse
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| I think it would interesting for an mlb champion to play against teams from Korea and Japan, both have strong domestic leagues and Japan has won the last 2 wbc titles, america hasn't won one yet. |
The WBC is a whole different animal than a MLB or NPB season. Any team can beat another on any given day, but give me a mediocre team in the MLB to win more often than not over any other team. |
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munybse
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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it's not that unfortunate of a name.
They are the best players in the 'world'.
And, they come from all over the 'world'.
As do players in the NFL, RWC, NBA and FIFA. |
You do understand that most 'world' sporting events involve more than one country, right?
Few countries play baseball, no-one plays American football. So why call it a 'world series?' The FIFA 'world' cup you used as an example consists of a lot of countries playing against each other.
Hey! let's have the world kerplunking event in Australia! Sydney can play Melbourne, Canberra can play Adelaide...and overseas players can play for one of those teams!  |
They started playing the "World Series" before anyone else had a legit professional league - about 30 years in the case of Japan. So why would they change the name. When it started they were it. Now there are so many foreign players in the game that it really is a "World" Series. |
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itistime
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| munybse wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
| itistime wrote: |
it's not that unfortunate of a name.
They are the best players in the 'world'.
And, they come from all over the 'world'.
As do players in the NFL, RWC, NBA and FIFA. |
You do understand that most 'world' sporting events involve more than one country, right?
Few countries play baseball, no-one plays American football. So why call it a 'world series?' The FIFA 'world' cup you used as an example consists of a lot of countries playing against each other.
Hey! let's have the world kerplunking event in Australia! Sydney can play Melbourne, Canberra can play Adelaide...and overseas players can play for one of those teams!  |
They started playing the "World Series" before anyone else had a legit professional league - about 30 years in the case of Japan. So why would they change the name. When it started they were it. Now there are so many foreign players in the game that it really is a "World" Series. |
I guess I was emphasizing the fact that people from many nationalities play the game. I give a sh t about baseball, but they are the best in the 'world'. I give a sh t about Am football, but some of those athletes are phenomenally powerful. Yikes!
Maybe Australia should hold world kerplunking event. God knows that their rugby prowess is sl i pp ping g g away. |
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| itistime wrote: |
| munybse wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
| itistime wrote: |
it's not that unfortunate of a name.
They are the best players in the 'world'.
And, they come from all over the 'world'.
As do players in the NFL, RWC, NBA and FIFA. |
You do understand that most 'world' sporting events involve more than one country, right?
Few countries play baseball, no-one plays American football. So why call it a 'world series?' The FIFA 'world' cup you used as an example consists of a lot of countries playing against each other.
Hey! let's have the world kerplunking event in Australia! Sydney can play Melbourne, Canberra can play Adelaide...and overseas players can play for one of those teams!  |
They started playing the "World Series" before anyone else had a legit professional league - about 30 years in the case of Japan. So why would they change the name. When it started they were it. Now there are so many foreign players in the game that it really is a "World" Series. |
I guess I was emphasizing the fact that people from many nationalities play the game. I give a sh t about baseball, but they are the best in the 'world'. I give a sh t about Am football, but some of those athletes are phenomenally powerful. Yikes!
Maybe Australia should hold world kerplunking event. God knows that their rugby prowess is sl i pp ping g g away. |
Lol, I agree. (I am a New Zealander!).
My point is that if only 2 or 3 countries play a sport - is it really a 'world sport' or 'world series?'
Just seems to be a bit of a stretch. Even rugby which is not hugely popular on a global scale, had teams from South America, Africa, Europe, North America, Oceania and the Middle East competing in it. So your 'world series' seems a bit, how can I say...Americentric? |
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| munybse wrote: |
| nero wrote: |
| itistime wrote: |
it's not that unfortunate of a name.
They are the best players in the 'world'.
And, they come from all over the 'world'.
As do players in the NFL, RWC, NBA and FIFA. |
You do understand that most 'world' sporting events involve more than one country, right?
Few countries play baseball, no-one plays American football. So why call it a 'world series?' The FIFA 'world' cup you used as an example consists of a lot of countries playing against each other.
Hey! let's have the world kerplunking event in Australia! Sydney can play Melbourne, Canberra can play Adelaide...and overseas players can play for one of those teams!  |
They started playing the "World Series" before anyone else had a legit professional league - about 30 years in the case of Japan. So why would they change the name. When it started they were it. Now there are so many foreign players in the game that it really is a "World" Series. |
So in that case, if there were no other countries playing and no other professional leagues in the world...why call it the 'world series?'
See what I'm sayin'? |
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northway
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Considering that the two leagues in competition are the National League and the American League, I'm guessing they went with "World Series" because the two most sensible names were already taken. It should be noted that they were very much two separate leagues when the World Series came about, and didn't come under the same umbrella organization (Major League Baseball) until much later. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| Who care what the name is? Any fan of the MLB knows what the WS is. Anyone who doesn't care about the MLB doesn't need to pay attention. Why are there contests called "Mr. Universe" and "Miss Universe?" Terra-bly earth-centric, that. |
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seala70
Joined: 13 Mar 2011 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| So, do you think Texas can win the American Series? I'm rooting for St. Louis. Doesn't look like SK will win another Korean Series. |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Location: Jongno
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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The real question isn't whether or not it should be called a "World Series" when it's played by North American teams. Of course that's a little silly.
The real question is why Brits, Aussies, Kiwis, etc. get so riled up about it. |
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warmachinenkorea
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| waynehead wrote: |
The real question isn't whether or not it should be called a "World Series" when it's played by North American teams. Of course that's a little silly.
The real question is why Brits, Aussies, Kiwis, etc. get so riled up about it. |
Because there not really that good at it. America competes in every sport in the Olympics. We even have a team in the Rugby and Soccer World Cup's when rugby is not very popular and soccer is the 3-4th most popular sport. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow. That game 6 was amazing. |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| waynehead wrote: |
The real question isn't whether or not it should be called a "World Series" when it's played by North American teams. Of course that's a little silly.
The real question is why Brits, Aussies, Kiwis, etc. get so riled up about it. |
Because there not really that good at it. America competes in every sport in the Olympics. We even have a team in the Rugby and Soccer World Cup's when rugby is not very popular and soccer is the 3-4th most popular sport. |
Soccer still ranks pretty low on the U.S. sports popularity totem pole, and definitely doesn't rank in the top five. |
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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Game 6 was an historic ball game.
Rangers were 1 strike away twice! |
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otnemem
Joined: 23 Jul 2009
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know if any bars will have game 7 live? It should start around 9am Saturday. |
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