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Feegirl
Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: Returning to Korea After Bailing on Contract |
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Hi folks! I need a little advice, please. I would like to apply for work at a public school. I have already worked in Korea at a hagwon. My time there was good however, an unfortunate incident forced me to leave early and basically bail on my contract (at 6 months). While my relationship with my boss was good while I was there, of course he wasn't too pleased about my leaving so suddenly (rightly so).
My question is, if I'd like to apply for another job in Korea, should I even mention that I'd worked there (and note the name of the school on my resume) previously? How likely is it that I'll get hired again, in your opinion, going by the info I've provided? Much appreciated! |
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Riker

Joined: 28 Dec 2010
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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People pull runners all the time in Korea, I don't see why this would be a problem. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Odds are nothing will happen unless your visa was not cancelled (thats unlikely).
Now why would you even wonder if you should include this past work experience on your CV?? You bailed on the school.... They likely do not have a great opinion of you (quite normal right?). Putting the employer on your CV will raise questions like: why was the work experience only 6 months? Can I call this employer as a reference?
Seriously....
Bascially, you will apply for the PS job as a full Korea newbie. |
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raptorsfan
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Bascially, you will apply for the PS job as a full Korea newbie. |
When you have to submit your passport to your employer when you get to Korea, wouldn't they see that you've visited Korea before? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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raptorsfan wrote: |
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Bascially, you will apply for the PS job as a full Korea newbie. |
When you have to submit your passport to your employer when you get to Korea, wouldn't they see that you've visited Korea before? |
That is possible.
Such is life eh. |
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raptorsfan
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: |
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When you have to submit your passport to your employer when you get to Korea, wouldn't they see that you've visited Korea before? |
Unless they ask for your ARC instead. I don't know. I don't even remember if they asked for my ARC or passport. It was such as long time ago. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:34 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Bascially, you will apply for the PS job as a full Korea newbie. |
What about when initial approach is made to consulate/embassy and the covering form asks whether you've ever been to K in the past?
If you indicate NO, when they handle your passport they will easily see the entry/exit marks plus old visa.
Unless you go to all the trouble of getting a fresh passport, of course.
Then also the authorities in K will find a duplicate name in their records with same ID number along with your submission that you've ne'er ever set foot there before.
As well you'll have to do the interview thing all over again, something spared you if you're not a newbie.
So after going to the effort and cost of the repeat interview, you get pulled up for telling falsehoods and summarily refused.
Honesty is the best policy. |
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Feegirl
Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:42 am Post subject: Thanks! |
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Yes, I've been mostly leaning toward 'honesty is the best policy' anyway. I just needed a few ideas. Thank-you everyone!
My visa was cancelled by my employer. However, I've talked to somewhat with Korean immigration and told them the situation. I asked them if this situation would hinder my getting another visa. They basically told me that I just have to apply for another visa. She (the operator) wasn't clear on details but I got the impression that it wasn't going to be too big a deal. But I'm sure that a new prospective employer would like to call the previous one, as some of you have mentioned. Oh well, I'll try and let it happen the way it must.  |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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I think, hang on until some informed poster chimes in on how to do the devious route.
It's critical with the PS powers that be who will definitely make the call to ex-boss. It's an abiding problem in Korea with vindictive bosses. (though not in your case)
Try and avoid shooting yourself in the foot if it can be helped. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Two points about submitting false documents, specifically, in this case, a false resume:
1) A copy of your resume is required to be submitted to Immigration with your visa application. If they see that you have false information or have withheld information that is grounds for refusal.
2) If you manage to escape the notice of Immigration and get to Korea based on the false resume, and your employer discovers that you have used fraudulent documents to obtain employment, then they have grounds for immediate dismissal that they can use any time they decide that they no longer wish to keep you.
Instead, if you had any kind of a good reason for leaving early, just be prepared to explain. If you are otherwise a qualified and attractive candidate you should still be able to land a job. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Very glad to see how this thread turned out....  |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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1) A copy of your resume is required to be submitted to Immigration with your visa application. If they see that you have false information or have withheld information that is grounds for refusal. |
Huh?
So if I decide I no longer want to list my first teaching job here back in 2001 because it's no longer relevant and want to fluff out newer work, I can potentially be denied a visa?
That sounds kind of...messed up. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Zyzyfer wrote: |
ontheway wrote: |
1) A copy of your resume is required to be submitted to Immigration with your visa application. If they see that you have false information or have withheld information that is grounds for refusal. |
Huh?
So if I decide I no longer want to list my first teaching job here back in 2001 because it's no longer relevant and want to fluff out newer work, I can potentially be denied a visa?
That sounds kind of...messed up. |
Considering your passport would have been changed since then and the visa within not being in your new passport I think it would be a different case than that of the OP... |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Considering your passport would have been changed since then and the visa within not being in your new passport I think it would be a different case than that of the OP... |
Fair enough but this is a hypothetical. I'm curious about it. Say I lopped off a job I did, say, 7 years ago, and the visa is still present in my passport.
I get the OP's situation being different, but the potential case I'm presenting is a bit different. We all know how a resume can be "tailored" towards a job back in the West, so if that can actually get someone in trouble in Korea, it's off-topic to the thread yet still an important point. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Zyzyfer wrote: |
PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Considering your passport would have been changed since then and the visa within not being in your new passport I think it would be a different case than that of the OP... |
Fair enough but this is a hypothetical. I'm curious about it. Say I lopped off a job I did, say, 7 years ago, and the visa is still present in my passport.
I get the OP's situation being different, but the potential case I'm presenting is a bit different. We all know how a resume can be "tailored" towards a job back in the West, so if that can actually get someone in trouble in Korea, it's off-topic to the thread yet still an important point. |
Let me put it this way then: holes in any resume always raise questions from an employer standpoint.
A continuous work/study history on a resume that suddenly goes blank for a chunk of time (6 months, one year) will raise questions like what were you doing during that time. Add this to say a previous work visa on your passport or file and an employer may start to wonder....or not. |
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