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[ZIFA]

[coralreefer_1]

Just read that on the net. Maybe its time to stop giving pretty, 26 year old 45kg female teachers preferential treatment in hiring.

[ZIFA]

[ldh2222]

Koreans always do the extreme. Corporal punishment, along with other factors, was an extreme tactic, practiced for many years... and then suddenly, BAM, the end, and on towards the other side of the spectrum. No gradual regress, nothing of that nature of course, just basically time-outs.

Now, the kids know how to work the system, and the teachers are scrambling. Basically, you can tell the teacher (as a 14yr old KID) to go F themselves and you'll barely be reprimanded because there aren't any real repercussions these days. Expect more of the same as they shuffle around trying to come up with some asinine idea to structure their system. Good luck teachers.

[WadRUG'naDoo]

Stand in the hall
Principal's office
Detention
Expulsion

"You can't expel my kid!"
"Sorry, but he/she's been given detention too many times and violated the rules enough that according to the written rules of the board of education, your kid must leave our school."

Bye, bye.

Duh.

[no_tofu_speed]

Agreed with what was said above.
Violence against a teacher (unless a case where the teacher strikes first) should be met with instant expulsion and a large fine to the family.
Considering the values place on family and education, this should be serious enough to limit this kind of behavior.

[David Gerrington]

My school has no 'discipline system' as such. I asked if I could use a detention system for misbehaving kids and was told that they'd tried that but the "parents didn't like it because they said it's the teachers job to control the class".

That's like not giving a firefighter water because it's his job to put out fires...

[cj1976]

It is an absurd situation. I work at a private girls middle school, so the parents have a lot of influence over the school. We aren't allowed to make the kids stand outside the class because of safety fears - apparently they might run away and get kidnapped by an opportunistic paedophile rapist who happens to be roaming the halls at the time -but the agreement between parents and teachers was that unruly kids be sent to the Principal's office. To be fair, she is a bit of an Ice Queen and the students genuinely fear her.
Two girls were expelled recently for repeatedly insulting teachers, although one has been allowed to return on a probation basis. However, the reason for their behaviour is part of a different problem. Both girls clearly have some kind of behavioral disorder which nobody has diagnosed or wants to deal with. One of these girls has some kind of compulsive disorder ie tics, random outbursts, attention deficit etc. Why is she even at the school in the first place?

[Steelrails]

The lawsuit culture is here. The entitlement mindset is setting in. The kids who don't fear anything are coming.

Sorry, but detention and expulsion are not the great threats that we think they are. Students can get used to detention and could care less if they are expelled. At least the ones that are THAT disruptive with their behavior.

Forced degrading menial labor. That's one of the few, non-violent ways of getting someone in-line. Make em scrub the nastiest bathroom with a toothbrush or spend 8 hours digging a ditch for no reason.

[eamo]

There will always be that rare extreme troublemaker. In any country and in any education system.

School discipline codes are written to handle normal kids. Not the occasional extreme tearaway.

So, it's hard to say what needs done with a kid who will actually physically brawl with a teacher. The parents really need to get control of this girl and improve her attitude with authority.......unfortunately even good parents sometimes lose control of their kids.

I don't think it's indicative of anything. Just an extreme case.

[chrisinkorea2011]

Unfortunately kids in korea are starting to become aware of their ability to use this system to their benefit. I remember when i was a kid, if you grabbed a student for being stupid and disrupting class you drug them out in the hall and made them stand. Now if you yell at a kid even remotely harsh the parents have a fit about their rights and offending their kid. yeah right beat their @$$, parents and do the right thing. (this is USA of course that im referring to)

I know my school still has teachers that hit the kids in a civilized manner of course, nothing extreme. Most of them are older, i saw a older teacher yesterday smack a kid in the head because the kid pulled out a chair and sat down on it right in front of the teacher when the teacher told him to stand in front of him. The kid PROMPTLY got up too lol

as for the case of this teacher and student, Teacher should have beat that kid's @$$ if student did strike first.

[jamesd]

[chrisinkorea2011]

[ZIFA]

[pedrotaves]

does no one else think that insulting a student--no matter the circumstances--is incredibly inappropriate?