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Are there hostile workplace environment laws in Korea?
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure the Korean supreme court would make this a priority, call a lawyer and build an air tight case.

seriously

88Sparky wrote:
I have this one co-worker. She is extremely rude and asks very belittling questions. One time, I couldn't see the plug on one of the vacuum cleaners because I'm 6'1", then she asks in a mean tone of voice, "Do you not have eyes?" She's done it more than once!. She asks me very belittling questions in front of my students. She blows things way out of proportion. Can I go to the Labor Board? Or do I have to talk to a lawyer?

Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated! Thanks!
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chrisinkorea2011



Joined: 16 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this your first job/year in korea?

Il let you on a little secret, koreans can be brutally honest or downright mean about it and not think twice about it. I had a teacher scoff at me because i didnt do something to his liking and you know what i said to him? "HEY you got a problem, say it to me like a man, dont scoff at me in a womanly way" Of course this was in front of other teachers so he lost face (something koreans CHERISH) and got pissed off and walked away.

ya gotta learn how to take things, if i saw you i might be like "dang giant cant you see up there with the clouds" or something like that. If you told your teachers i said that and you were upset, they would laugh at you. Seek revenge lol
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisinkorea2011 wrote:
Is this your first job/year in korea?

Il let you on a little secret, koreans can be brutally honest or downright mean about it and not think twice about it.


But only to those they see as inferior. A Korean, no matter how nasty this particular person may generally be, wouldn't be caught dead asking a superior something like "Do you not have eyes?"
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisinkorea2011 wrote:
Is this your first job/year in korea?

Il let you on a little secret, koreans can be brutally honest or downright mean about it and not think twice about it. I had a teacher scoff at me because i didnt do something to his liking and you know what i said to him? "HEY you got a problem, say it to me like a man, dont scoff at me in a womanly way" Of course this was in front of other teachers so he lost face (something koreans CHERISH) and got pissed off and walked away.

ya gotta learn how to take things, if i saw you i might be like "dang giant cant you see up there with the clouds" or something like that. If you told your teachers i said that and you were upset, they would laugh at you. Seek revenge lol


OP didn't say this woman was Korean, and she seems a lot like one of my foreign coworkers. While Koreans certainly can be brutally honest, they don't have a monopoly on obnoxious outbursts.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

88Sparky wrote:
I have this one co-worker. She is extremely rude and asks very belittling questions. One time, I couldn't see the plug on one of the vacuum cleaners because I'm 6'1", then she asks in a mean tone of voice, "Do you not have eyes?" She's done it more than once!. She asks me very belittling questions in front of my students. She blows things way out of proportion. Can I go to the Labor Board? Or do I have to talk to a lawyer?

Wow.Sensitive much? Please say you are female, though at 6'1" I doubt it. Someone even contemplating going to a labor board for a minor comment like that just blows me away. On the Korean rude-o-meter that only scores about a 2.5.

Try this: look her in the eyes, don't smile, and say "Hey, don't talk to me like that." Rinse and repeat. She'll get it. Some never learned proper manners and the language barrier could be an issue too (though not the main issue). She's being rude because she can. Don't let her.
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jamesd



Joined: 15 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
ZIFA wrote:
Draz wrote:
The Korean way is to ignore it until you explode or have a mental breakdown.


If you want korean "management" to the right thing you have to put a bomb under them.


Yeah, I like to skip the ignoring part and cut straight to the explosion. It still amazes me that acting like a child and throwing a tantrum at work gets good results around here.


LOL. Totally agree!

But Some Koreans don't learn, they get right back on that same horse to be spanked again.
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, why don't you just ask your mother what you should do?
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nero wrote:
OP, why don't you just ask your mother what you should do?


Laughing

sorry but that was funny.

Laughing
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to take it beyond yourself and the coworker, talk to your coordinator about it.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go out drinking with your coworkers, they probably hate her as much as you do.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nero wrote:
OP, why don't you just ask your mother what you should do?



Ah. Of course. Mother would say, "There, there (patting you on the back). You had a bad day. Bad co-teacher. Just forget about it. Here, have some ice cream and you'll feel better."




















"There, there (pat, pat on the back). Poor OP. You had a bad day. Bad co-teacher. Just forget about it. Have some ice cream and you'll feel better."
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. It looks like some of you have never had a job before. I would exchange work war stories with my co-workers about our boss at a law firm. He'd blow a gasket over the smallest things. Once I was walking by his office and he called me in. Then he insulted me for a good 15 minutes over the fact that I did not come into his office with a writing pad and pencil. He was literally frothing at the corners of his mouth with spittle flying everywhere. Said I was unprepared and thoughtless; never mind the fact that I was merely walking by his office when he called me in.

One of the secretaries once told opposing counsel that our boss was out to lunch and couldn't take the call. Unbeknownst to her, apparently he had lied to the opposing counsel and said that he was out of town and couldn't make a court appointment. So when he found out that the secretary accidentally told the truth and contradicted him, he took a large stapler and threw it at her head. He missed, but she showed me the dent in the wall by her computer. He cussed her out for what seemed like an eternity, using language that would make Andrew Dice Clay blush. F'ning c--t this, stupid b---h that. All at a yelling voice that people two doors down could easily hear. Now that was a hostile workplace. Laughing
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, in these situations you must think on your feet and use your humor.

You could have replied, "Yes, I see it, but I was only testing you. Because I think your eyes (eyesight) are not good. Your eyes jump from side to side always."

Then an unflattering rendition of her eyes darting about. Keep the 'joke' in being for a day or two.

Make sure that everytime she gives it to you, she gets back with interest.

Be patient and get even. Sooner or later in front of people who count, she's going to make an English blupse. In loud voice you hasten to correct. Students can be used for this in the interim, until someone more eligible comes along and ups the ante.

She'll hate you, but you don't score high with her already, so nothing to lose.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy her a box of chocolates.

Maybe she just wants you to 'notice' her.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
chrisinkorea2011 wrote:
Is this your first job/year in korea?

Il let you on a little secret, koreans can be brutally honest or downright mean about it and not think twice about it.


But only to those they see as inferior. A Korean, no matter how nasty this particular person may generally be, wouldn't be caught dead asking a superior something like "Do you not have eyes?"


Yes because in every other country people insult their bosses and superiors on a regular basis... Rolling Eyes
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