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Reggie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

declan74 wrote:
How can you wear one of those things? I am sure lots of people know you are wearing one but have never said anything.The fact that you can spot other toupee wearers,says a lot.

Gluing someone else's hair to your head and being worried about it blowing off etc etc.......not for me thanks. How about when you shower,sleep,swim etc?


Swimming is no problem and why would it affect one's sleep? Worrying about one blowing off is certainly not a concern. That's about like being worried about your pants falling down. While it's not entirely impossible, it's just very, very unlikely.

I can tell George Clooney, Ben Affleck, Harrison Ford, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and numerous other men wear them. I've obviously never told them to their faces, but they probably still feel better about wearing toupees, otherwise they wouldn't wear one. Ben Affleck's hairpieces are some of the worst I've seen. Pacino's are nice. I probably don't notice really good ones.

Think of how often you spot them on the subway. I doubt you see them. Wait about 10 years when you become more familiar.

It's a hairpiece on the my big head not my little one, so it doesn't affect sex, aside from attracting higher quality women in Korea and the USA.
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Reggie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an anecdote about my experience since I arrived back in Korea.

I arrived in August and my apartment didn't have A/C, which is crucial when you wear a toupee. If you're head is sweating, you can't glue it on properly. Shame on my school for being dishonest by mentioning A/C in the contract.

I wore the toupee for the first two days of work then decided I would shave my head. I knew my Korean girlfriend wouldn't care one way or the other, so it really didn't matter.

I showed up to work with a shaved head on my third day. One female Korean teacher, the best looking one, liked it. Another one hated it. My female boss looked bewildered, asking me why I shaved it. A balding male foreign coworker said, "You take your locks for granted."

A few nights later when we were having a goodbye dinner for the departing teacher, the Korean teacher who really hated my shaved head told me that her female Korean female friend had been fawning over me, saying I was so handsome when she saw me with hair (a toupee), but now she thought I looked like...and she made a farting sound with her mouth.

It has taken a while for the sides and back to grow back out to be long enough for the hairpiece.

I've tried a shaved head and a hairpiece both in two different countries (the USA and Korea) and a hairpiece has worked better for me in both countries. If a shaved head works better for you, that's great. My cousins, military veterans, do the shaved look. My uncle, an Airborne veteran, has old school hair plugs that look like crap. My brother does the look where he's half bald but doesn't shave it off. He's married and old fashioned though. With the exception of my uncle, I think we're all happy with our choices. It basically comes down to personal preference and our goals.


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declan74



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reggie wrote:
declan74 wrote:
How can you wear one of those things? I am sure lots of people know you are wearing one but have never said anything.The fact that you can spot other toupee wearers,says a lot.

Gluing someone else's hair to your head and being worried about it blowing off etc etc.......not for me thanks. How about when you shower,sleep,swim etc?


Swimming is no problem and why would it affect one's sleep? Worrying about one blowing off is certainly not a concern. That's about like being worried about your pants falling down. While it's not entirely impossible, it's just very, very unlikely.

I can tell George Clooney, Ben Affleck, Harrison Ford, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and numerous other men wear them. I've obviously never told them to their faces, but they probably still feel better about wearing toupees, otherwise they wouldn't wear one. Ben Affleck's hairpieces are some of the worst I've seen. Pacino's are nice. I probably don't notice really good ones.

Think of how often you spot them on the subway. I doubt you see them. Wait about 10 years when you become more familiar.

It's a hairpiece on the my big head not my little one, so it doesn't affect sex, aside from attracting higher quality women in Korea and the USA.





Do you tell the women you are intimate with that you wear a hairpiece? What if she's running her hands through it and feels something strange?

How about if you start digging a chick only later you find out she's turned off when she finds out you're actually a bald dude?

Why do you assume that your hairpiece is attracting higher quality women rather than you as a person? Anyway,personally I wouldn't want to be with a lady who judges a guy based upon his hair or lack thereof.
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declan74



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reggie wrote:
Here's an anecdote about my experience since I arrived back in Korea.

I arrived in August and my apartment didn't have A/C, which is crucial when you wear a toupee. If you're head is sweating, you can't glue it on properly. Shame on my school for being dishonest by mentioning A/C in the contract.

I wore the toupee for the first two days of work then decided I would shave my head. I knew my Korean girlfriend wouldn't care one way or the other, so it really didn't matter.

I showed up to work with a shaved head on my third day. One female Korean teacher, the best looking one, liked it. Another one hated it. My female boss looked bewildered, asking me why I shaved it. A balding male foreign coworker said, "You take your locks for granted."

A few nights later when we were having a goodbye dinner for the departing teacher, the Korean teacher who really hated my shaved head told me that her female Korean female friend had been fawning over me, saying I was so handsome when she saw me with hair (a toupee), but now she thought I looked like...and she made a farting sound with her mouth.

It has taken a while for the sides and back to grow back out to be long enough for the hairpiece.

I've tried a shaved head and a hairpiece both in two different countries (the USA and Korea) and a hairpiece has worked better for me in both countries. If a shaved head works better for you, that's great. My cousins, military veterans, do the shaved look. My uncle, an Airborne veteran, has old school hair plugs that look like crap. My brother does the look where he's half bald but doesn't shave it off. He's married and old fashioned though. With the exception of my uncle, I think we're all happy with our choices. It basically comes down to personal preference and our goals.





I agree it's all about personal choice but did some Korean chick thinking the real bald you didn't look as good as the artificially haired you affect you in any way?

Interesting discussion nonetheless.


p.s......I actually saw the wind lift the side of a guy's toupee off his head a few years ago.Poor guy started walking quickly with his hand firmly planted on his head until he could get safely to cover.

I just lathered up and shaved my head about 30 mins ago actually.Nothing feels better than the cool air on your scalp and the black,stubble filled water going down the drain.It's almost a religious experience. Cool
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Reggie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

declan74 wrote:
Do you tell the women you are intimate with that you wear a hairpiece? What if she's running her hands through it and feels something strange?

How about if you start digging a chick only later you find out she's turned off when she finds out you're actually a bald dude?

Why do you assume that your hairpiece is attracting higher quality women rather than you as a person? Anyway,personally I wouldn't want to be with a lady who judges a guy based upon his hair or lack thereof.


My girlfriend knows I wear one and she doesn't care.

But I'm mainly attracted to her because of her physical appearance. Of course, she's in her 30s too and she has to do like me and color over her gray hair. Plus, she wears makeup. We both use artificial enhancements to make ourselves appear better than we naturally look.

For several years now, we've both seemed to look good enough to each other and treat each other well enough to make the relationship work. Plus, there are other factors such as income, compatibility about our personal interests, and so on.
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Reggie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

declan74 wrote:
I just lathered up and shaved my head about 30 mins ago actually.Nothing feels better than the cool air on your scalp and the black,stubble filled water going down the drain.It's almost a religious experience. Cool


A shaved head does feel good. If women didn't exist, I would shave mine every day. In a couple of decades, I'll probably go back to the shaved look.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reggie wrote:
declan74 wrote:
I just lathered up and shaved my head about 30 mins ago actually.Nothing feels better than the cool air on your scalp and the black,stubble filled water going down the drain.It's almost a religious experience. Cool


A shaved head does feel good. If women didn't exist, I would shave mine every day. In a couple of decades, I'll probably go back to the shaved look.


No lie. Running your hands over the stuble does feel very good.

As a smoker and someone who has a cpl of beers every night though I do find that signs of age are accentuated when you have a dome. Luckilly I'm still at the landing strip phase where it still looks okay. Kinda almost as bad as Jude Law's, but not quite.

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I can tell George Clooney, Ben Affleck, Harrison Ford, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and numerous other men wear them.


No way! Really? The De Niro? The Cloonster? I honestly thought that Pacino had had micrografts. Do you mean they wear them in the mvies or in real life also?

Lets post some pics of those guys and analyze them. I'm not kidding, it's fun! A friend of mine and I love posting links to pics of Jude Law's current hair situation at any given time. Helps to know he's going through it too!

I'm currently trying inversion every morning for a few mins for boosted circulation to the dome.... A yoga style headstand is said to improve volume.

I will add to what others have said about women - they really do not seem to mind too much. Shaved, longer with a side combing of the landing strip, whatever, female friends say it is really no biggie either way.

I personally prefer at my stage just to keep it short and neat, about 2 - 4 inches or or so in length.

Funny thread anyway!
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radcon



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its great that you baldies have convinced yourself that it doesn't matter but we live in a superficial world. Women care (the younger the more they care), and employers care.
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
Its great that you baldies have convinced yourself that it doesn't matter but we live in a superficial world. Women care (the younger the more they care), and employers care.


Yet our real world experiences do not match your subjectivce opinion one iota.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful where you go. Some of the smaller towns and metro cities will charge less but use outdated methods. Hair will not take well or will fall out some. I would say apgujung area of Seoul is the only place to go. Rates will not be much different from Thailand for a good job. Knew people who looked into Thailand. Remember cheaper is not better if you can't reference the quality of the work, after surgery follow up, modernitity of the methods. Different people like different things as far as baldness goes. This is a clinic with experience in dealing with foriegners.

http://www.hairdoc.co.kr/

Click the English link and call the number. Don't email; won't get back to you.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some women may accept it and some may not. I use to be bald. The attraction was all over the map. But I was in the countryside at the time. Maybe the place was too traditional. People thought I was older than I was and as an early 30's guy then, I thought I could do better than attracting late 40's women. Younger women were non existent. Though it came and went in phases for me, even when I went to Seoul. Add in boubts of xenophobia that flare up from time to time and viola. Thing is Ive always been told I have a younger looking face and am a nice looking guy. But the baldness really screwed me up at times. That said, there was the odd woman who did seem to like it when I shaved it completely bald. But the mindset was more asian. Think over the past few years more Korean women might be forgiving of it on a western guy. Especially in Seoul. That said, my small city, I did heard negative feedback on the lack of hair. But then there was the occasional 20's and 30's woman who didn't mind.

It really is my belief that there has been sime kind of a quiet revolution in this country during 2009 and 2010ish. Where there seems to have been a flushing out of some the old fashioned ignorant thinking. Sure it still exists but there seems to be coming of age a group with more Westernized thinking. I have recently on a visit to Seoul seen an attractive Korean woman with a balding white guy. I wouldn't have seen that 2008ish. I only saw bald or balding guys walking around by themselves at that time.

I think in the country what I probably saw the most were tall blond guys with average looking or even slightly below average looking faces or overweight ending up with the most women. BUt in Soeul, more often good looking white guys ending up with good looking korean girls. Others can chime in on that.

Anyways, things were not what they were here. But baldness will make you look older. There can still be looks discrimination though not as much as before. Other Asian countries may still discriminate. Looking younger for future job interviews in other countries or even in the west can't hurt. It's really up to you.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did get two surgeries at this clinic over the past couple of years. The debt can be stiffling more than I thought. But some of the people who saw pictures of me from before versus now all praise my looks now. Lots of shallow people here and maybe everywhere. My hair won't look like a 22 year olds, but it won't look like a 58 year old's like it did before. There was a period of 6 months after each surgery, I looked frankensteinish. It takes about a year to grow in. First was front top and then a year later front back. No more kids screaming buck buck gee at me. In Seoul, I think people will be more polite and less abusive about it. Older people may still have some predjudice against it. In the countryside, you'll get constant questioning about it. That said, I could still date occasionally. Think some women liked it that I was a comedian and good with kids. But definately many who were turned off by it.

I don't mind having a shaved head and would like to have the option, in the future of shaving my head for a while and then growing my hair in for a while too. Nice to have the option. You're looking at about 5 to 6 million won per surgery. With exchange rate, it will be a little cheaper than back home. Thailand for quality work isn't much different, plus the cost of the flight.

You might have a nicer looking appearance for job interviews and get more respect from some of the population for it. People can be shallow here. I imagine China is probably really bad like this.

As you know Asian men don't start thinning until their 50's and don't go bald until their 60's. I remembered renewing my contract my first year and kept getting asked by immigration officers why I lost my hair so young? Some of teh most ignorant behaviour I've ever seen. But I think Korean's have learned to shut up about these things more recently. In Seoul for sure.

All I can say is gauge your reaction when you had hair versus not having hair. If women weren't swooning over you with hair before, they probably won't if you get it back. Still confidence, being interesting, being funny, all these things can make up for a lot. Being attractive too can put you over the top.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did get two surgeries at this clinic over the past couple of years. The debt can be stiffling more than I thought. But some of the people who saw pictures of me from before versus now all praise my looks now. Lots of shallow people here and maybe everywhere. My hair won't look like a 22 year olds, but it won't look like a 58 year old's like it did before. There was a period of 6 months after each surgery, I looked frankensteinish. It takes about a year to grow in. First was front top and then a year later front back. No more kids screaming buck buck gee at me. In Seoul, I think people will be more polite and less abusive about it. Older people may still have some predjudice against it. In the countryside, you'll get constant questioning about it. That said, I could still date occasionally. Think some women liked it that I was a comedian and good with kids. But definately many who were turned off by it.

I don't mind having a shaved head and would like to have the option, in the future of shaving my head for a while and then growing my hair in for a while too. Nice to have the option. You're looking at about 5 to 6 million won per surgery. With exchange rate, it will be a little cheaper than back home. Thailand for quality work isn't much different, plus the cost of the flight.

You might have a nicer looking appearance for job interviews and get more respect from some of the population for it. People can be shallow here. I imagine China is probably really bad like this.

As you know Asian men don't start thinning until their 50's and don't go bald until their 60's. I remembered renewing my contract my first year and kept getting asked by immigration officers why I lost my hair so young? Some of teh most ignorant behaviour I've ever seen. But I think Korean's have learned to shut up about these things more recently. In Seoul for sure.

All I can say is gauge your reaction when you had hair versus not having hair. If women weren't swooning over you with hair before, they probably won't if you get it back. Still confidence, being interesting, being funny, all these things can make up for a lot. Being attractive too can put you over the top.


Thanks Weigookin74

This is what I was looking for. I have the same mindset as you when it comes to our situation. I will contact the clinic for consult.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best test case: watch Wayne Rooney over the next year or so. He had implants done a couple of months ago. If someone on a salary of $400,000 a week has it done and can't make it look good, what hope for the rest of us?
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Michael_75



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimskins wrote:
Best test case: watch Wayne Rooney over the next year or so. He had implants done a couple of months ago. If someone on a salary of $400,000 a week has it done and can't make it look good, what hope for the rest of us?


His hair doesn't look bad at all, and if I hadn't known I would have assumed it to be real. It does seem strange however that a man who has spent so much cash on his hair consistently cuts it short (a tactic for those with thinning hair).

More pressing though is whether having hair changes how attractive an individual is, given that confidence is the most attractive quality a person can have. Despite the thousands of pounds spent, Wayne Rooney can't transplant his face. But do transplants give him more confidence? He claims that they have.

Will it give you more confidence? Maybe it will, but perhaps you should spend more time working on your self confidence than your hairline. I have several friends who are now almost completely bald, and they don't struggle with women because they are, and always were, confident, hair or not.

In short, hair transplants look bad (unless you have serious cash to pay the best surgeons), and smack of a lack of confidence. Don't waste the cash, focus on your best points instead.

(From a guy who is starting to recede)
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