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kingssurfer
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:36 am Post subject: Anyway out of this? Breaking contract before it starts |
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I recently signed a contract to work at a hagwon, which will start in 2 weeks, and they have submitted my papers to immigration.
I left my last asp in August, because I was unable to get my documents on time.
I recently found out that my asp wants me back, and they have 2 openings at the beginning of December. As well as that, the person who replaced me at my old asp quit, and will leave in February. Everyone at my last asp wants me back, the co, the principal, the student's, etc.
My question are how is it possible to break a contract before it starts, without facing major ramifications? I know it seems impossible, and I could pretty much lose everything. How is it possible to get a lor after only 3 months of working? I am really skeptical about this hagwon, and I would much rather go back to the asp. I know I don't really have much of a chance, but is it possible to do this somehow? |
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kingssurfer
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Ttompatz, could use your help here. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Pay the dmgs my friend.
Technically you can walk away, but you need to set the record straight with the people you signed a contract with. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Anyway out of this? Breaking contract before it starts |
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| kingssurfer wrote: |
I recently signed a contract to work at a hagwon, which will start in 2 weeks, and they have submitted my papers to immigration.
I left my last asp in August, because I was unable to get my documents on time.
I recently found out that my asp wants me back, and they have 2 openings at the beginning of December. As well as that, the person who replaced me at my old asp quit, and will leave in February. Everyone at my last asp wants me back, the co, the principal, the student's, etc.
My question are how is it possible to break a contract before it starts, without facing major ramifications? I know it seems impossible, and I could pretty much lose everything. How is it possible to get a lor after only 3 months of working? I am really skeptical about this hagwon, and I would much rather go back to the asp. I know I don't really have much of a chance, but is it possible to do this somehow? |
You could just call the school and tell them. Be honest and give them a chance to replace you. They will need as much time as possible and it could hurt the school.
However, since they have submitted your papers to Immigration, you will soon have a Visa Issuance Number. If you don't take this job you will have to wait until it expires to begin again. You will have to wait - can't remember how long - 3 or 6 months? before you can get another visa.
Better to take the job you've promised to take. |
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kingssurfer
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I am currently in country, and given the situation, I don't think they would have much trouble finding a replacement. As of right now, I do have a visa number, but no visa, and haven't started. I don't what the ramifications are. I might as well just take it, despite my doubts. You say I wouldn't be able to work until the contract is up, but since my contract hasn't started, and I have been told it is possible to get out of it, I don't know what to make of it. |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| I was in a similar situation, I was ending a contract with school 1 and things weren't working out with school 2 before the contract period started. A new visa was issued for school 2, but I went with school 3 and immigration just treated it as if I was going from 1 to 3 and put a change of location sticker in the passport and updated the ARC. The only extra thing I remember needing to do was to get another release letter from the first school. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
| I was in a similar situation, I was ending a contract with school 1 and things weren't working out with school 2 before the contract period started. A new visa was issued for school 2, but I went with school 3 and immigration just treated it as if I was going from 1 to 3 and put a change of location sticker in the passport and updated the ARC. The only extra thing I remember needing to do was to get another release letter from the first school. |
In your case, you were doing a visa transfer with a release letter and no visa run.
The OP has a visa issuance number, which means he has to do a visa run to get his new visa. He apparently has no visa to transfer. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| kingssurfer wrote: |
| Well, I am currently in country, and given the situation, I don't think they would have much trouble finding a replacement. As of right now, I do have a visa number, but no visa, and haven't started. I don't what the ramifications are. I might as well just take it, despite my doubts. You say I wouldn't be able to work until the contract is up, but since my contract hasn't started, and I have been told it is possible to get out of it, I don't know what to make of it. |
Immigration will often do things that seem to violate their own policies, so you should ask them.
However, under rules in the recent past, once you have a visa issuance number, you have to go on a visa run to get your visa. You cannot get a new VIN until the one you have expires. You don't have to wait until the contract expires, just the VIN. Maybe it can be cancelled somehow, maybe by your new school. |
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kingssurfer
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I am going to find out the difference between a vin and an actual working visa. Would I need an lor to get out of vin? |
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koreatimes
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| The OP has a visa issuance number, which means he has to do a visa run to get his new visa. He apparently has no visa to transfer. |
Then, it seems like it would be easier. I already know the difference in my situation compared to the OP.
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| Would I need an lor to get out of vin? |
lor from whom? |
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kingssurfer
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: |
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An lor from the new school.
Does having a VIN mean they own me now, or do they not own me until I get an actual working visa?
There are some things about this new school that I have a bad feeling about
( 2 people not lasting their contracts, and only one ft liking it)
Yes, I would probably have to pay the recruiters, and realtor�s fee, but I just don't have a good feeling about this place. Something seems fishy.
Most places that I interviewed with needed some time to think before they got back to me, but this place was very quick to hire me. It makes me think they are hiding something. |
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