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Student brawls with teacher at Gwangju school
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squire wrote:
Mix1 wrote:
Squire wrote:
To what degree do you guys think it's reasonable for us to defend ourselves if a student attacks us? I've always assumed I can only restrain them in the worst scenario, but maybe it would be okay to throw a jab to the body if it gets really out of hand?

"Okay" for whom? Yeah sure, jabs would be okay, but hooks and uppercuts are strictly illegal. Laughing

Ok, in all seriousness, not a good idea.


What if two kids are attacking you? You can't restrain two people at once

Hey you changed the parameters of the situation. Wink That changes the "rules" considerably.
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88Sparky



Joined: 02 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran into a guy from Ohio who was teaching here in Korea. One of his female students stabbed him with a pencil in his leg. The girl was expelled.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pedrotaves wrote:
does no one else think that insulting a student--no matter the circumstances--is incredibly inappropriate?


The teacher should not have insulted the student. She should have calmly said "Cell phones for outside the classroom." Many young people are becoming extremely rude. I really feel for teachers having to deal with disrespectful kids. Perhaps, you should have students who assist teachers in making sure other students are not disruptive. The teacher obviously didn't have the rest of the class on her side.
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point taken about violence in north american schools. However, this is Korea. We don't know exactly what was said that was so insulting. Be that as it may, I've never heard anything justify hitting a teacher. I can't believe some are clinging desperately to an insult, of which they don't know specifically so it could be inconsequential, as justification for the student. Or using it to minimize the fault of the student.

There is no justification whatsoever iin this matter. The student was wrong for being on the phone and staying on the phone repeatedly. The student was wrong for attacking the teacher. The chain of events tells me the student could care less. The parents reaction tells me that they excuse bad behavior.

End of story. Bad student from a result of bad parenting.
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Mr. BlackCat



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Mr. BlackCat wrote:
Oh lord here comes UM again with random "facts" trying to excuse inexcusable behaviour simply because the perpetrator was Korean. Nothing like reverse cultural bias to lighten the mood.


You seem to have this bizarre reading comprehension issue where you keep taking statements out of context so that you can complain about them. To everyone else who was paying attention, urban myth was responding to another post and not posting random facts. As an English teacher, you should look into getting that fixed.


Thank you, madoka. Having you state your disapproval of my comments confirms that I am saying something true.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps, they could have all cell phones placed in a box at the teacher's desk if it's going to be a problem. Cell phones are addictive for many folks including teenagers, so having them in classrooms causes all kinds of problems.
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Munniko



Joined: 04 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is sadly why I proved to my trouble classes that while they are almost as tall as me or taller, this small foreign teacher can move the bookshelves easily in the classrooms (someone was an idiot and threw their pencil back there and wouldn't shut up about it before class)


I would have to say that I really disagree with insulting students, mainly because I primarily a kindergarten teacher and it disturbs me when other teachers are saying how fun it was to make a student cry. I don't agree with that and you could seriously mess up a students learning ability by giving them a negative concept of school so early on. I find it is easier to be kind of rough on them, but when they are behaving have fun and kind of be on the same level.
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blm



Joined: 11 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it reads the Kid just sounds outright bad and the parents awful.
Maybe there is more to it though, and you could probably tell after meeting the parents for 5 minutes wether they are just awful parents or there is more to the story.

We haven't had anything like that happen at our school but the younger teachers aren't always very professional.
They buy ice creams for students but whenever I have seen that done it always seems to be a handsome boy that's receiving the ice cream rather than anyone for any genuine performance.
They play favourites in the classroom and don't treat all students equally..... it's a recipe for bad blood.
The two worst offenders of this didn't actually finish the year at our school and both left for Hogwan jobs arround July. If they were full teachers though they would still be here and I can imagine it blowing up.

One of them was always complaining about the behavior of the girl students (but not the one guy) in her afteschool class. Some of the students she was complaining about live in my complex and I know they are good students. They obviously didn't respect her, and I can understand why.
She didn't care about them or teaching and she did promise two boy students dinner if they did well...... but they weren't her students!

They wouldn't start a punch up though but in a rougher area or in a case the teacher was even less professional, not out of question.
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