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tideout



Joined: 12 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:50 am    Post subject: Success with little or no English Reply with quote

Here's a great NYT's story on successful people who don't speak English (or on a very limited basis)
The article's title is:

Moving to U.S. and Amassing a Fortune, No English Needed

More than 40 years after arriving in New York from Mexico uneducated and broke, Felix Sanchez de la Vega Guzman still can barely speak English. Ask him a question, and he will respond with a few halting phrases and an apologetic smile before shifting back to the comfort of Spanish.


I tried linking to it but with apparent problems (see below). Maybe best bet is to throw the title into google for finding.

I wish I had the thread I read here from a NET stating the ESL business shouldn't be more complicated than a yoga class on Thursday nights.

Here's the story for when it all gets toooo heavy man.


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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: Success with little or no English Reply with quote

tideout wrote:
Here's a great NYT's story on successful people who don't speak English (or on a very limited basis)

I wish I had the thread I read here from a NET stating the ESL business shouldn't be more complicated than a yoga class on Thursday nights.

Here's the story for when it all gets toooo heavy man.

http://tinyurl.com/cuzg5ye


people quoting or commenting on a newspaper article should actually post the article (or relevant portion).

Your link now points to an article about:
U.N. Agency Says Iran Data Points to A-Bomb Work
By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: November 8, 2011

United Nations weapons inspectors have amassed a trove of new evidence that they say makes a �credible� case that �Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear device,� and that the project may still be under way.


and will probably change again before long unless you are suggesting that people who don't speak English and build nukes to use against the US should be considered to be a success.

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tideout



Joined: 12 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: Success with little or no English Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
tideout wrote:
Here's a great NYT's story on successful people who don't speak English (or on a very limited basis)

I wish I had the thread I read here from a NET stating the ESL business shouldn't be more complicated than a yoga class on Thursday nights.

Here's the story for when it all gets toooo heavy man.

http://tinyurl.com/cuzg5ye


people quoting or commenting on a newspaper article should actually post the article (or relevant portion).

Your link now points to an article about:
U.N. Agency Says Iran Data Points to A-Bomb Work
By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: November 8, 2011

United Nations weapons inspectors have amassed a trove of new evidence that they say makes a �credible� case that �Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear device,� and that the project may still be under way.


and will probably change again before long unless you are suggesting that people who don't speak English and build nukes to use against the US should be considered to be a success.


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Well, I do think this is one of the funniest misposts I've ever made and I love your re-interpretation of the article!!!! Laughing

I'll edit above post - article's too long to post I suspect.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't the NYT but they picked up the article

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/nri/working-abroad/moving-to-us-and-amassing-a-fortune-no-english-needed/articleshow/10668858.cms
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tideout



Joined: 12 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
This isn't the NYT but they picked up the article

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/nri/working-abroad/moving-to-us-and-amassing-a-fortune-no-english-needed/articleshow/10668858.cms


Ah, thanks for setting up the link. I guess tinyurl isn't a go on the board here.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full NYT article here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/nyregion/immigrant-entrepreneurs-succeed-without-english.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp

Quote:
Mr. Kim, the Korean retailer, recalled that when he opened his first store in Brooklyn, nearly his entire clientele was Afro-Caribbean and African-American, and his customers spoke no Korean.

�You don�t have to have a big conversation,� he recalled. �You can make gestures.�

While his holdings have grown, he has also formed or led associations and organizations that focus on empowering the Korean population in the United States. As in business, modern communication has made it much easier for him to raise his profile throughout the Korean diaspora well beyond New York.

�The success of my life is not only that I make a lot of money,� he said, �but that I make a lot of Korean people�s lives better.�

Yet he admitted that he was embarrassed by his inability to speak English. He has gone so far as to buy some English-tutorial computer programs, but for years, they have gone mostly unused.
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Los Angeloser



Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'No English needed for successful immigrants in US'
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/11/182_98582.html

"The New York Times and the International Herald Tribune have reported that immigrants such as native Korean, Kim Ki-chol, 59, have overcome these language barriers and become extremely prosperous.

Kim came to the U.S. and opened a clothing store in Brooklyn, hoping to achieve the �American dream,� which he ultimately did.

He arrived 30 years ago, barely speaking any English. His initial customers were mostly African-Americans and because there really was no need for conversation, Kim communicated via body gestures.

A leader of the Korean community, Kim says he not only strives for personal entrepreneurial growth, but to focus on positively influencing other Korean immigrants.

He stated that the success of his life is not his fortune, but the fact that he has helped improve the lives of Koreans living in the U.S."
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