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Soonchunhyang University in Asan
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:10 pm    Post subject: Soonchunhyang University in Asan Reply with quote
Hello! Has anyone worked at Soonchunhyang University? How was it?
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
double post

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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I haven't worked there but I have friends who do.

If you want to work for a control freak, micro-managing, 2-faced, crazy lady then this is your place. You'll be interviewed by her actually. Do not be fooled by initial appearances. And I'm not even exagerating.

Housing is not great...basically student dorms (cockroaches included!).

You have to work 3 weeks camps in both summer and winter for no extra pay, which is actually the worst part about the job.

However, it does perhaps remain better than a sketchy hagwon? You do get a decent amount of vaction (12 or 13 weeks approx). And you do get paid on time.
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmm... not the news I was looking to hear. Thank you for your honesty.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was looking at Soonchunhyang as well. This doesn't sound too good. I thought I read on the job ad that overtime is paid. So I take it that summer/winter camps are not considered as overtime, or that promises are not kept?

Anyone else have any feedback?
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't work there, but I know people who do work / have worked at SCH. Camps during vacation are a part of the basic salary deal; you will NOT receive extra money for working on these compulsory camps.
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Highwayman



Joined: 22 May 2011
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Apply. Then ask about paid camps. Then decline the position if they're not included. You may get a special offer, and if not, at least you're educating the management about why they can't take their pick of potential staff. They might wise up some day.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can tell you with 100% certainty that the camps are not paid. I know many of the teachers there and they complain about it endlessly.
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anjucat



Joined: 26 Jul 2005
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I will confirm what jlb wrote. Spot on.
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Krishire



Joined: 28 Apr 2011
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think OP should offer up a couple details. Is this your first university employment? Are you in Korea now? Qualifications?

I currently work at SCH and think it's a great place to start. There's VERY little over head management and they give you a lot of free reign with your classes. There's no submitting lesson plans or reporting to a department chair. Also the co-workers are a fantastic bunch, the job is very low stress, and there are other little perks (TIEL cert course, Hangul classes, campus gym, overtime opportunities).

I can confirm that camps are required but not paid. There is one in the winter and one in the summer. Yeah it sucks. Also the pension plan needs serious revision. They take pension but the school does not match the amount.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. I don't have a "friend" working there, I am here now. Wink
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Krishire wrote:
Also the pension plan needs serious revision. They take pension but the school does not match the amount.


And actually the pension thing isn't really the big problem at that place. I hear lots of people from SCH complaining about it, but it's just lack of information mostly.

There are 2 different kinds of pensions in Korea.

1. The National Pension plan, which is what you'd get if you worked at a public school or hagwon (or perhaps National Uni?). Your employer matches your contribution.

2. The Korea Teacher's Pension, which is a private kind of thing. I'm pretty sure SCH is on this plan. It's the same thing my uni (down the road from SCH) has. You don't get matching contributions from your employer, but when you withdraw your money, you get a kind of "bonus" percentage based on the number of year contributed.