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Greekfreak
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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Nobody drinks soju because it's delicious--most booze isn't--they drink it because it's the cheapest swill you can get f***ed up on. Makkoli, same difference.
When it's the rule, not the exception, that people sit outside a family mart and just imbibe the cheap shyte, then you've identified yourself as a tightwad. Your prerogative, but I think it does look pretty white trash.
And the Freakiest Waygood thread will NEVER be topped. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| Greekfreak wrote: |
Nobody drinks soju because it's delicious--most booze isn't--they drink it because it's the cheapest swill you can get f***ed up on. Makkoli, same difference.
I dunno man, I think Koreans actually DO like it. With regards to waygookers though, yeah fo sho. Butvmackgeolli - how can anyone NOT like it?
When it's the rule, not the exception, that people sit outside a family mart and just imbibe the cheap shyte, then you've identified yourself as a tightwad. Your prerogative, but I think it does look pretty white trash.
Oh pay 6k a drink in a bar full of people you have no interest in talking to - or pay 6k for enough booze (soju or mak) to get the same result as 6 of those 6k drinks with a select group of friends? I know which I prefer and I aint a cheap foriegner.
And the Freakiest Waygood thread will NEVER be topped.
Meh, some of the ones in here come close. I guess those folks I'm thinking of would also be considered freaky waygs, so there is some overlap.  |
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Panda
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Being cheap and being stingy are different I think.
Being stingy is part of most people I can safely bet. if you deny it is either because you are hypocritical or you are that abnormal 1%  . It is nothing wrong being hypocritical , because that had been proved to be the social psychology: we tend to be less stingy in public.
Here is the famous " Public Goods Game" |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Self-interest. Stingy just sounds like an undesirable quality. Frugal sounds wise. Cheap sounds bad. Thrifty sounds good. Careful with money sounds good. Tightwad sounds terrible. We could just be playing with words. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| joelove wrote: |
| Self-interest. Stingy just sounds like an undesirable quality. Frugal sounds wise. Cheap sounds bad. Thrifty sounds good. Careful with money sounds good. Tightwad sounds terrible. We could just be playing with words. |
Indeed but the dude who keeps avoiding paying his share of the meal tab is cheap, no playing with words there. |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Greekfreak wrote: |
| Nobody drinks soju because it's delicious--most booze isn't--they drink it because it's the cheapest swill you can get f***ed up on. Makkoli, same difference. |
Come on, man. There's no need to hurt makkoli's feelings like that. |
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joelove
Joined: 12 May 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| joelove wrote: |
| Self-interest. Stingy just sounds like an undesirable quality. Frugal sounds wise. Cheap sounds bad. Thrifty sounds good. Careful with money sounds good. Tightwad sounds terrible. We could just be playing with words. |
Indeed but the dude who keeps avoiding paying his share of the meal tab is cheap, no playing with words there. |
Oh I agree completely. I was just thinking how one can view himself vs how others might. You call me cheap, I say frugal. And all that nonsense. Nah/
I wonder how these cheapskates view themselves. God. Save a buck here and there. Nice.
It makes no sense to me. But I'm not interested in saving an extra 50 or wow, even 100 bucks per year and looking like a jackass to everyone I meet. |
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magni
Joined: 11 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| I've had some serious bill issues in the past. I'm vegetarian (don't worry, I've heard all the puns/criticisms) and weekly we would do a staff (or whoever wanted to show up) dinner- always at some sort of Galbi/lamb/chicken place. I'd order a nangmyon and suddenly I am splitting even on the bill. My korean friends would either refuse to let me pay or get annoyed when I don't pay an even amount. Couldn't win. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| magni wrote: |
| I've had some serious bill issues in the past. I'm vegetarian (don't worry, I've heard all the puns/criticisms) and weekly we would do a staff (or whoever wanted to show up) dinner- always at some sort of Galbi/lamb/chicken place. I'd order a nangmyon and suddenly I am splitting even on the bill. My korean friends would either refuse to let me pay or get annoyed when I don't pay an even amount. Couldn't win. |
Actually to "win" you needed to pick up the entire bill once in a while....thats how it works usually...just sayin |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| magni wrote: |
| I've had some serious bill issues in the past. I'm vegetarian (don't worry, I've heard all the puns/criticisms) and weekly we would do a staff (or whoever wanted to show up) dinner- always at some sort of Galbi/lamb/chicken place. I'd order a nangmyon and suddenly I am splitting even on the bill. My korean friends would either refuse to let me pay or get annoyed when I don't pay an even amount. Couldn't win. |
Actually to "win" you needed to pick up the entire bill once in a while....thats how it works usually...just sayin |
Ok... How about magni pick the next place to eat? That seems fair to me  |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| magni wrote: |
| I've had some serious bill issues in the past. I'm vegetarian (don't worry, I've heard all the puns/criticisms) and weekly we would do a staff (or whoever wanted to show up) dinner- always at some sort of Galbi/lamb/chicken place. I'd order a nangmyon and suddenly I am splitting even on the bill. My korean friends would either refuse to let me pay or get annoyed when I don't pay an even amount. Couldn't win. |
Actually to "win" you needed to pick up the entire bill once in a while....thats how it works usually...just sayin |
I have yet to meet a Korean frined that would let me pay the bill. To the point of almost pushing me (in a non threatening manner) away from the cash register area. I guess most of them were older than me and male though. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| magni wrote: |
| I've had some serious bill issues in the past. I'm vegetarian (don't worry, I've heard all the puns/criticisms) and weekly we would do a staff (or whoever wanted to show up) dinner- always at some sort of Galbi/lamb/chicken place. I'd order a nangmyon and suddenly I am splitting even on the bill. My korean friends would either refuse to let me pay or get annoyed when I don't pay an even amount. Couldn't win. |
Actually to "win" you needed to pick up the entire bill once in a while....thats how it works usually...just sayin |
Ok... How about magni pick the next place to eat? That seems fair to me |
Sure thats fair if the place compares in price. Still, this type of thing is not expected of us wayguks. Its not that big a deal unless the wayguk in question keeps avoiding the bill and takes advantage of the others picking up the tab! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| magni wrote: |
| I've had some serious bill issues in the past. I'm vegetarian (don't worry, I've heard all the puns/criticisms) and weekly we would do a staff (or whoever wanted to show up) dinner- always at some sort of Galbi/lamb/chicken place. I'd order a nangmyon and suddenly I am splitting even on the bill. My korean friends would either refuse to let me pay or get annoyed when I don't pay an even amount. Couldn't win. |
Actually to "win" you needed to pick up the entire bill once in a while....thats how it works usually...just sayin |
I have yet to meet a Korean frined that would let me pay the bill. To the point of almost pushing me (in a non threatening manner) away from the cash register area. I guess most of them were older than me and male though. |
Thats a normal process of being polite and at the end of it, you should pick up the bill once in a while. Then, next time, you instist on paying, they refuse and someone else pays.
For example, I have former Korean co-workers at one of the schools I worked for in Busan. We stayed close over the years, there are about 8 of us. We used to meet a few times per year when I was in Korea and now its each time we visit Busan. Well, one year its one of them picking the bill at the restaurant where we meet, the other year its me...everyone is happy.
I bring them gifts every visit and they have visited us in Canada as well. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Yes but I am a lot younger than you and the Korean guys I've gone out with and I'm unmarried (the latter carrying equal weight in Korea) and they are married.
No way in hell a Married Korean man will let a younger unmarried foriegner (being a guest in the country, also carrying equal weight so there's 3 strikes against me, so to speak) pay for drinks or a meal.
You should know this tbh.
Not like I haven't tried, but 7 years and they never let me, no matter how many times we go out. Only way past it would be to prepay and then I feel like they would be insulted and I was being an upstart to be quite frank. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
Yes but I am a lot younger than you and the Korean guys I've gone out with and I'm unmarried (the latter carrying equal weight in Korea) and they are married.
No way in hell a Married Korean man will let a younger unmarried foriegner (being a guest in the country, also carrying equal weight so there's 3 strikes against me, so to speak) pay for drinks or a meal.
You should know this tbh.
Not like I haven't tried, but 7 years and they never let me, no matter how many times we go out. Only way past it would be to prepay and then I feel like they would be insulted and I was being an upstart to be quite frank. |
I was your age not long ago and I picked up the tab with older co-workers on occasion. It was no strike against me either, thats an excuse. 
I picked up the bill at a family outing last January in Busan. The outing was with my in-laws (parents in law, brother in law and so on). They had treated us a couple of times already and it was my time to pay. I just went to the cash, asked the adjuma there for the table bill and paid it before the in-laws could argue. They mock complained after but were happy. So, the "they are older" line sounds suspiciously like you not being too dissapointed you do not have to pay
By the way I am confused, you said before you were in korea for 4 years or maybe i miss-read that and now its 7.
Anyway, take care out there in Busan.  |
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