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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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 Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| runthegauntlet wrote: |
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| Other people have run the gauntlet so to speak. It may have nothing to do with the individual teacher - just who's on top of things administratively at your location. |
What's that supposed to mean? I do everything requested and don't get on message boards whinging about it.
You might want to try doing the same. Or you can just stick your thumb in your mouth and call everyone who actually, you know, does their jobs without reaching out to anyone with a sympathetic ear "spineless bootlickers'.
I will say that I've recently found out that I have to go watch another foreign teacher teach an open class.
Not sure if that's training for me or them, but it sounds like it should be quite interesting and I'm looking forward to it.
Proceed with your asinine comments.....now. |
You started with "whatever that's supposed to mean" and then proceeded to rip away? I mean why wait to start rippin'?
Seriously dude? Caffeine intake a little high?  |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| dbtm wrote: |
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you have an easy public school job just suck it up.
your korean coteachers have to sit through bs training seminars all the time. |
Ah, a bootlicker almost any organization would love.
If it made one bit of difference the it would be worth discussing, but no one believes it does. Just more money and time down the drain.
For the spineless "it's all good". |
Well it's not your money (unless your school is making you pay for it in which case Im on your side) and unless you are developing your own curriculum from scratch you have dozens of free hours a month to do this from your desk so it's not your time either. |
Well, actually I do. My own power points, videos, etc. But I'll always find some time for Dave's, and Facebooking. Ha ha.
But I was imune to the online training course. When was that? Last year? Anyhew, guess I would have done if I had to.... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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It also depends on who hires you. If you are hired directly from EPIK/GEPIK it makes a slight difference from being hired directly by the school or city as regards these training camps.
I was hired directly by the city I work in...that's who pays my salary. So these training camps are optional for me. If the city would rather have me in the classroom that's what happens.
When I was hired by EPIK/GEPIK I had to attend these camps. So far this year at this job I've been offered two (not mandatory) and turned them both down. Then again I've yet to see someone with with a lot of experience or qualifications doing a presentation at one of these orientations. |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| tideout wrote: |
You started with "whatever that's supposed to mean" and then proceeded to rip away? I mean why wait to start rippin'?
Seriously dude? Caffeine intake a little high? |
You start the thread with a post where you essentially whine about having to do job training, then start ripping away on anyone that suggests that 'training' is part of the job. I mean, why wait to start rippin'?
Seriously dude? Sense of entitlement and ego a little high? |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| runthegauntlet wrote: |
| tideout wrote: |
You started with "whatever that's supposed to mean" and then proceeded to rip away? I mean why wait to start rippin'?
Seriously dude? Caffeine intake a little high? |
You start the thread with a post where you essentially whine about having to do job training, then start ripping away on anyone that suggests that 'training' is part of the job. I mean, why wait to start rippin'?
Seriously dude? Sense of entitlement and ego a little high? |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| tideout wrote: |
Things come around - thanks for your response and I'll try to address your question which goes with a post or two above yours.
I realize that there's an image out there that all public school teachers are slipping into comas while desk warming. In fairness, this was the case with another public school job I had so I get the perception. This is not the case this round and for what it's worth, not the case with several other teachers in my district I've talked with prior to this.
Deskwarming is few and far between so this "training" will be on my own time. I won't go into all of the details for obvious reasons but suffice it say it has something to do with massive inefficiency and communication problems. I'll leave it there.
Ippy - Thanks for taking the time to read the post for its intention and rspond the way you did. I really appreciate it as well as some insight into
what's actually going on there. Humor appreciated as well and I'll pass on the "news" next year as you suggest.
After talking with another more knowedgable (than me) NET today, they agree that this is nothing more than a cover everyone's butt exercise.
Sorry to see there are so many people out there who are apparently bitter about not having a public school job. |
I have to agree with this. At my last school I would agree with the ample free time assessment, but at my current one I barely have enough time to get my usual lesson planning done. I have alot more individual classes (not the same one 8-10 times), plus afternoon classes to plan for and teach. I'm not complaining, I like mixing it up like this. But now my school wants me to prepare my winter camp and a new afternoon course for next semester within the next couple of weeks, not to mention a couple of open classes I have. This 'training' was just dropped on me in the typical Korean style of flailing arms and BBALI BBALI! I simply don't have time, I already stayed late 3 days this week. It's just going to have to wait till my downtime in the winter.
I have no problem doing things like this, but I need to be given the time and resources to get it done. I realize KTs have to do this stuff, too, but it's their career. Korean schools can't have it both ways, treating us like temps and then expecting us to perform like lifers. Give me 2 days off from classes to go to a workshop and actually learn something and I'll be happy. I actually want to improve my skills, but doing it like this serves no one and is another waste of time, which is no longer surprising unfortunately. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
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Things come around - thanks for your response and I'll try to address your question which goes with a post or two above yours.
I realize that there's an image out there that all public school teachers are slipping into comas while desk warming. In fairness, this was the case with another public school job I had so I get the perception. This is not the case this round and for what it's worth, not the case with several other teachers in my district I've talked with prior to this.
Deskwarming is few and far between so this "training" will be on my own time. I won't go into all of the details for obvious reasons but suffice it say it has something to do with massive inefficiency and communication problems. I'll leave it there.
Ippy - Thanks for taking the time to read the post for its intention and rspond the way you did. I really appreciate it as well as some insight into
what's actually going on there. Humor appreciated as well and I'll pass on the "news" next year as you suggest.
After talking with another more knowedgable (than me) NET today, they agree that this is nothing more than a cover everyone's butt exercise.
Sorry to see there are so many people out there who are apparently bitter about not having a public school job. |
I have to agree with this. At my last school I would agree with the ample free time assessment, but at my current one I barely have enough time to get my usual lesson planning done. I have alot more individual classes (not the same one 8-10 times), plus afternoon classes to plan for and teach. I'm not complaining, I like mixing it up like this. But now my school wants me to prepare my winter camp and a new afternoon course for next semester within the next couple of weeks, not to mention a couple of open classes I have. This 'training' was just dropped on me in the typical Korean style of flailing arms and BBALI BBALI! I simply don't have time, I already stayed late 3 days this week. It's just going to have to wait till my downtime in the winter.
I have no problem doing things like this, but I need to be given the time and resources to get it done. I realize KTs have to do this stuff, too, but it's their career. Korean schools can't have it both ways, treating us like temps and then expecting us to perform like lifers. Give me 2 days off from classes to go to a workshop and actually learn something and I'll be happy. I actually want to improve my skills, but doing it like this serves no one and is another waste of time, which is no longer surprising unfortunately. |
Yeah, I ran into someone yesterday from orientation. They just told the school they didn't want to do it. No issues in refusing. So, it's not a systems "check" on job knowledge or anything educational even. |
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