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US Court shuts down freedom of speech online

 
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: US Court shuts down freedom of speech online Reply with quote

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This is the second court victory for the US authorities in a case that has alarmed privacy and free speech advocates; in part because the inquiries' targets might never have known they were being investigated had Twitter not challenged the subpoenas.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/11/us-verdict-privacy-wikileaks-twitter

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Last month the Inter-Parliamentary Union, which represents MPs from 157 countries, unanimously adopted a resolution condemning the move by the Justice Department. The IPU said the move threatened free speech and suggested it could violate Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which upholds the right of everyone to freedom of opinion and expression.
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Few citizens of the world will be adequately clued up on US surveillance laws, yet information stored on Facebook, Twitter, Google or any other American companies is subject to them. Unwarranted search and seizure by the government officials was unacceptable to the American revolutionaries. Shouldn't it be unacceptable in the digital age, too?


Read more on how the US govtment is able to secretly read your emails here -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/11/us-government-secretly-reads-your-email
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When the authorities in charge of San Francisco's Bart subway system shut down cellphone service last week to defuse an anticipated protest, they may not have realised they were the first government agency in the United States to employ a tactic that many associate, as Amy Goodman noted here this week, with the dictatorial regimes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hosni Mubarak.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/aug/18/bart-free-speech

It saddens me to read this.

I thought the USA was the world's number one bastion of free speech.
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
I thought the USA was the world's number one bastion of free speech.


And this is why I despise the British-influenced Common Law. Very Happy
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Different times on the same day:

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I thought the USA was the world's number one bastion of free speech.




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OR are you just 2

trolling

3 trying to win an argument?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to feel sorry for that silly git when you read statements like the below though.

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"I want everybody to be fully aware of the rights we apparently forfeit every time we sign one of these user agreements that no one reads," said Jonsdottir.


Perhaps actually READING these user agreements would be a good start rather than whinging about it in a newspaper AFTER the fact?
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Hard to feel sorry for that silly git when you read statements like the below though.

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"I want everybody to be fully aware of the rights we apparently forfeit every time we sign one of these user agreements that no one reads," said Jonsdottir.


Perhaps actually READING these user agreements would be a good start rather than whinging about it in a newspaper AFTER the fact?


You have a point, but the issue is that it still

a. Doesn't make it okay (that they can look into our private emails and social networking accounts)

and

b. Who reads the reams of small print anyway?
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Hard to feel sorry for that silly git when you read statements like the below though.

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"I want everybody to be fully aware of the rights we apparently forfeit every time we sign one of these user agreements that no one reads," said Jonsdottir.


Perhaps actually READING these user agreements would be a good start rather than whinging about it in a newspaper AFTER the fact?


A lot of it is written in legalese. I mean TUM is right, the statement he makes sounds stupid. But its true: nobody reads it because it takes far too much investment and dubious return.
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The Floating World



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's getting worse people. A bill may soon be going through congress which will allow further internet cencorship and the shutting down of websites.

http://www.tgdaily.com/opinion-features/52530-congress-still-considering-internet-censorship

Goodbye land of the free, hello commie China....

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It�s a bad news day for Internet users in America. The totalitarian bill that would give the government power to shut down websites their secret controllers do not approve of is making its way through congress again.
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Ineverlie&I'malwaysri



Joined: 09 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Floating World wrote:
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When the authorities in charge of San Francisco's Bart subway system shut down cellphone service last week to defuse an anticipated protest, they may not have realised they were the first government agency in the United States to employ a tactic that many associate, as Amy Goodman noted here this week, with the dictatorial regimes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hosni Mubarak.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/aug/18/bart-free-speech

It saddens me to read this.

I thought the USA was the world's number one bastion of free speech.

It saddens you? It should be enraging you to get out there on the streets yourself and protest, or soon you will no longer be able to. Occupy something already!
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sad and scary fact is that half of the American people still believe they live in a free and fair republic and most of the others are too apathetic, ignorant or scared.

We no longer live in the country we were taught we were in history and civics class...and haven't for a while now.
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