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I-am-me
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Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| compared to manny's other fights, he really didnt look like he tried much in this one. Maybe its time for him to retire??? |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| What I've been reading in boxing blogs is that the fight WAS close and could have gone either way but that the three judges were American, and that American judges tend to favor aggressiveness. Marquez's trainer mistakenly believed that his boxer was ahead entering the final round and so Marquez merely avoided the knockout. |
Most judges, American or not, tend to score in favor of the aggressor. If both guys are landing a similar amount of clean punches, you have to score it to the guy who's going at his opponent, because he's making the effort to hurt the other guy.
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you have to put a score after every round then add them up after the 12th. |
I'm surprised people don't know this. Yes, you score each round individually in boxing, MMA and kickboxing.
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| I'm not saying Marquez didn't win the fight but after a closer inspection, the decision was not "robbery." |
A robbery is when a fighter is not rewarded the victory even though it was extremely clear that he won. This was not one of those cases. It was a very close fight where judges gave a couple rounds more to one fighter over the other.
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And no, it was a great move by boxing to cut the number of rounds from 15 to 12. Fighters can get seriously hurt in the later rounds and it's a sport, not a gladiatorial contest to the death. |
This isn't something I personally don't care that much for since I'm happy with 12 or 15, but people should still get their facts straight.
There has been no significant reduction of deaths in boxing after reducing championship fights to 12 rounds. Fighters get seriously hurt because they put in hundreds of hours of hard sparring before the actual fight takes place. If you know how professional fighters train, you'll know that sparring is done with the same intensity as a real fight. That's where damage to the brain is accumulated not in the fight. [/quote] |
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mj roach
Joined: 16 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't see the fight but if it was for the title the challenger has to do more than 'close' to win against the champ. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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According to Ringtv.com, 12 of 20 boxing writers who were ringside for the fight had Marquez winning, one scored it for Pac-man, and the rest declared a draw.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/170145-experts
All I know is that Mayweather has no excuse not to fight Pac-man now and I'd bet on Floyd dominating Pac-man. Another writer on bleacherreport.com made another good point: perhaps Pac-man at 32 is seeing his physical skills erode, though I'm sure it's also because he had fought a bunch of so-so to washed-up opponents like Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito and Shane Mosley as of late. |
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kengreen
Joined: 19 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Styles make fights.
Pac-Man has always had a hard time with Marquez. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:05 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure Pac-man will agree to fight Mayweather even if the latter agrees to do so. The last fight on their undercard involved rising star Timothy Bradley, who signed with Top Rank earlier this year, and he might be next in line to fight Pac-man given the latter's disappointing performance against Marquez.
Perhaps Pac-man and Mayweather can fight other fighters before agreeing to their mega-fight in December 2012. I say Mayweather take on another high quality opponent in Amir Khan. |
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