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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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| High-tech "lynching": (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/04/herman-cain-high-tech-lynching-ad_n_1076516.html) |
Link doesn't work, nor did the cut and paste attempt.
This 'high tech lynching' thing is a red herring. It's an attempt to blame the messenger and distract attention from the original allegations. It seems to be working as a strategy, if you can go by campaign contributions. It has been entertaining to watch the very people who so strongly objected to playing the race card even when it was appropriate, to now play the race card themselves when it is clearly not appropriate. Someone, I think on Chris Hayes, said Cain is 'conveniently black'.
When you look at motive, liberals had the least to gain from this. A clown leading the GOP field? When your opponent is setting himself on fire, why step in and stop him, as a wise non-Latina lesbian said. The culprit was either:
a) one of the rival campaigns
b) the GOP establishment
c) someone at NRA
PS: Has anyone else been having trouble with the 'Preview' button? I rarely use it, but I've noticed the last couple of times I did, that it shows things the way you want them, but when you hit 'Submit', it mashes everything into one long paragraph. |
The link works for me. But you're not missing anything of substance. Just a preposterous (and btw hypocritical) GOP victim narrative. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Given today's developments, I'd say Mr. Cain should withdraw in about 2 days.
Given his weirdness and the generally weird mental state of the right wing in the US these days, he'll probably last longer.
The 5 women seem to be in conference about making a group appearance at a press conference.
Tomorrow night the GOP candidates are supposed to have a 'debate' on foreign policy. Unless someone asks the following, all should have his/her journalistic licesnse revoked live on air: "As commander-in-chief, you would be the boss of thousands of female soldiers, responsible for their safety and security both on the field of battle and off. What would your policy be about sexual harrassment? Given that you yourself do not uphold those standards, why should anyone vote for you?"
This whole Cain and the issue of not being able to keep his pants zipped is a major distraction from the issues that are important to the country---jobs and income equality. The ONE thing that has been good about the scandal is that it has revealed how anti-women the GOP is. I have to believe even dyed-in-the-wool Republican women are frothing at the mouth over his anti-woman stance.
If this thing goes on much longer, the GOP coalition is going to be made up of weapons manufacturers, weapons manufacturers, weapons manufacturers and evangelicals...and I'm not sure about the evangelicals. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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I can't help but wonder if Herman Cain refers to himself as Herman Cain, or if he is really referring to 'himself' ^^ as Herman Cain...and just what does Gary JOHNSON think of this. Along the same smutty lines, you know of course from your Humanities 101 class that Alcibiades got in major trouble when he and his drunk friends went through the streets of Athens breaking off the penises of the HERMS that were outside houses and on street corners. Look it up if you don't remember the reference.
Both the first and second women who have come forward are blond. Toure (on Larry O'Donnell) says it means something, but the lady on the show with him says it doesn't. How do you think this black man-on-blond-white-woman plays in non-progressive households? (Keep in mind when answering that, that of the 44 men who have been president, one and only one has been asked to produce a birth certificate in addition to the birth certificate they produced when they filed to run for the presidency.)
The Republican establishment has had their hair on fire for almost two weeks now. Can't you just see Scrooge McDuck sitting up there on Wall Street on his pile of money wondering, �Is this the best we have?� How many different alternative proposals do you think Scrooge and his friends have offered Cain to fall on the sword and get out of the spotlight and off the stage? Do you think Mitt has been in negotiations with Rupert to offer Herman a gig in prime time if he (Herman) hangs on just another day?
Does this press conference tell us why Mark Block smokes on camera? Wouldn't you, given the situation? And are we sure it was only tobacco?
On the other hand, how many Dem establishment types do you think are having 'Hang-in-there-Herman' parties?
When this is all over, can you imagine slinking home to the wife? I don't know about you, and I don't care if she is only 5 feet tall, I'd be hiding the scissors before I went to sleep. Anyone Cain's age remembers Lorena Bobbitt. Cain's mom was named Lenora...switch two letters and you have Lorena. �The flesh is weak.� Yikes! |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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(Keep in mind when answering that, that of the 44 men who have been president, one and only one has been asked to produce a birth certificate in addition to the birth certificate they produced when they filed to run for the presidency.)
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Although the Constitution requires that an individual must be a native born American and 35 years old to take office as President of the US, there is no requirement to produce a birth certificate to file as a candidate.
Any requirement to produce a birth certificate would be a state requirement for ballot access. Several states have proposed new ballot access requirements to produce a birth certificate in order to appear on the ballot. I'm not sure if any of them have become law yet.
The House of Representatives could require a birth certificate to be produced when counting the ballots cast in the Electoral College, but they never have AFIK.
I have heard of some states requesting a birth certificate for a particular 3rd party candidate long ago who was actually too young and had been challenged by someone. However, the request was not permitted under any state statute. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:57 am Post subject: |
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lol, right
Someone who's never been on national television and is describing a sexual assault against her is nervous. Another person who's been on national radio and television for years (decades?) is not nervous when denying it on national television.
Not a surprising result. Also, not relevant to the truth of the case. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Its very scientific. A talking head says so! |
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Highwayman
Joined: 22 May 2011
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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At least he's prepping better for debates ...
Still, he seems a bit slow on his feet ...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/cain-talks-libya-pulls-perry
And his ignorance is pretty easy to expose at times ...
Did anyone see him blow that question in his one-on-one with Gingrich?
Huge silence, then, "Uhm, I'll let Newt answer that question first ..."
I don't think he would be able to win a general election. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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I think if someone asked Cain what he thought of Pakistan obtaining a nuclear weapon, he'd say that it should be prevented at all costs :- / |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:09 am Post subject: |
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Even Michelle Malkin (Michelle Malkin!) says he isn't 'ready'.
It's clear the man hasn't even thought about the issue beyond 'I disagree with whatever Obama has done'. It went something like this: I wouldn't make a decision until I had all the information, and I didn't have the information, but if I had had the information I'm sure I would have, or maybe not, have arrived at a different or the same conclusion as Obama, but whatever, I would have done a better job than Obama. Because I'm a businessman.
I think Rachel has expressed it best: the man's 'candidacy' is a performance art project.
And it's over.
Next clown out of the GOP clown car, please. |
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Highwayman
Joined: 22 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't make a decision until I had all the information, and I didn't have the information, but if I had had the information I'm sure I would have, or maybe not, have arrived at a different or the same conclusion as Obama, but whatever, I would have done a better job than Obama. Because I'm a businessman. |
Quite accurate. His chorus seems to be "I don't disagree with doing X. I just disagree with the way Obama did it." Insert <bailing out the banks> or whatever other issue he once supported, but which is currently unpopular with the GOP base, and you have Herman's answer.
I think he came across as smart and fiery at a time when some of the GOP candidates were very tentative. He got his moment in the sun after the first couple of debates. Now he's in decline, and his support will vanish by the primaries.
Santorum's performance in the debates has been much stronger and more consistent. If it weren't for his super-hawkishness and profound social conservatism, he might have been an appealing candidate. |
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