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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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yea.. 3rd graders do suck.. they think they are too important for an english lesson... i don't have them thankfully... i had them last year when they were 2nd graders (of course) and it is amazing how big their heads get once becoming a senior.. some are still great but it is suprising how many change their tune.
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bizzare thing is a few of my 3rd years like me. They get upset when I'm not there and one of classes that is really quiet is really talkactive with me. But yeah 3rd years and 2-9 suck. |
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Location: osan
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| na...i just steal food from them when they are not looking. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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They do sometimes but you just put your foot down.
Have you ever noticed that the students you really don't like the most are the ones who want the money the most.
If it was geniune need then I have no hesitation but when it just being greedy it is different.
I hate when you have food how the try to stick their grimy hands in there. I nearly break their hands off. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:31 am Post subject: yes |
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If I give to one, I must give to all. Above almost everything else, I claim to be fair.
Giving to everyone all the time would make me broke. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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If I give to one, I must give to all. Above almost everything else, I claim to be fair.
Giving to everyone all the time would make me broke. |
Well if you give to the ones who work hardest in the class, couldn't you say they EARNED IT?
I give candy as rewards, not because they do "teacher candy" type crap.
Buy it in bulk. I swear i don't go through the candy I have fast enough! |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| I give students candy every class. I've been working in hagwons for seven years and I've never used this 'strategem'. All class long I'm giving points to the two teams as they score and the winning team gets a 'winner's candy', which would be a toffee or one of those green grape hardball candies they go for. But everybody gets a mini tootisie roll pop (bags of 250 pops for 9000won at Walmart). They associate class with candy at the end, and that's good. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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I'm surprised at how many of you spend your money on the kids.
Yeah I keep candy in my desk and give out maybe a few a day to the really good kids (of which there are noticeably few).
*shrugs* It's your money, do with it what you will, but I don't understand why anyone would waste it all on the kids, who will shaft you the next day if it serves their purpose. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| i have 800 students. i spend nearly 100,000 won on choc pies and oh yes every month. dumb fug huh. |
I don't have so many students but I don't mind sometimes feeding my kids. I usually try to work it into a lesson. One day I brought in nachos and salsa and did a lesson on Mexican food. Another day I brought in donuts and did a lesson about the history of Tim Hortons and Canadian food. Sometimes if the weather is nice I take a smaller class outside and bring some cider and coke and paper cups.
The poor kids spend so much time in school and hagwons you don't mind sometimes trying to do a little something special. And if they like coming to your hakwon because of little things like that, it helps with the job security.
Think of it as a little investment. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| I don't understand why anyone would waste it all on the kids, who will shaft you the next day if it serves their purpose. |
Yeah, putting a smile on a small child's face is a waste.
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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If the kids are spending so much time studying that they don't have time to eat, do you think your kindness should subsidize their parent's stupidity?
Also, if you are feeding your kids as a bribe for enrollment and job security, both you and your director are wanks.
If you want to give your kids food out of random niceness or as part of a lesson, that's fine. The other reasons aren't good reasons. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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If the kids are spending so much time studying that they don't have time to eat, do you think your kindness should subsidize their parent's stupidity?
Also, if you are feeding your kids as a bribe for enrollment and job security, both you and your director are *beep*.
If you want to give your kids food out of random niceness or as part of a lesson, that's fine. The other reasons aren't good reasons. |
Get over yourself. |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| phaedrus wrote: |
If the kids are spending so much time studying that they don't have time to eat, do you think your kindness should subsidize their parent's stupidity?
Also, if you are feeding your kids as a bribe for enrollment and job security, both you and your director are *beep*.
If you want to give your kids food out of random niceness or as part of a lesson, that's fine. The other reasons aren't good reasons. |
Get over yourself. |
I am.
Children should come to school ready to study, not ready to eat.
If I was an inner city volunteer for underpriveliged kids there might be a good reason for kids showing up hungry.
If they are always hungry then it should be the school not your paycheck that is doing something about it, especially if it is a matter of them dropping or not. As far as job security, do you think it's your problem if your boss is an ass and fires you because your kids dropped? If your boss is this type, change schools. All of this is even more applicable if they are so fickle they drop because they don't get a candy every now and then and isn't actually an issue of hunger.
There is fun and then there is stupidity.
It used to bother me that at my old school there was a praise system for whoever hosted the most 'events' for their students such as ice cream day or pizza day. If the school foots the bill, fine. If I foot the bill, well happy students is all I ask for. If I don't fit the bill and neither does the school, and another teacher is buying food, am I a bad teacher? No. |
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katydid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
| wylde wrote: |
yea.. 3rd graders do suck.. they think they are too important for an english lesson... i don't have them thankfully... i had them last year when they were 2nd graders (of course) and it is amazing how big their heads get once becoming a senior.. some are still great but it is suprising how many change their tune.
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bizzare thing is a few of my 3rd years like me. They get upset when I'm not there and one of classes that is really quiet is really talkactive with me. But yeah 3rd years and 2-9 suck. |
I have some cool kickass second year students. I'm going to be really upset when next year rolls around and they decide I'm no longer cool enough for them. It'll really break my heart to see the bubbly chirpy sweet first years metamorphosize into sullen 3rd years.
It's really weird. Like 85 percent of my 1st year classes are really good, and I'm being very conservative with that estimate, About 50 percent of my second year classes are good, but the other half are on their slide downhill into 3rd year ennui. The third years, I truly feel sorry for. I'd say there, it's not so much classes I really enjoy, but the individual students. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| phaedrus wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
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If the kids are spending so much time studying that they don't have time to eat, do you think your kindness should subsidize their parent's stupidity?
Also, if you are feeding your kids as a bribe for enrollment and job security, both you and your director are *beep*.
If you want to give your kids food out of random niceness or as part of a lesson, that's fine. The other reasons aren't good reasons. |
Get over yourself. |
I am.
Children should come to school ready to study, not ready to eat.
If I was an inner city volunteer for underpriveliged kids there might be a good reason for kids showing up hungry.
If they are always hungry then it should be the school not your paycheck that is doing something about it, especially if it is a matter of them dropping or not. As far as job security, do you think it's your problem if your boss is an ass and fires you because your kids dropped? If your boss is this type, change schools. All of this is even more applicable if they are so fickle they drop because they don't get a candy every now and then and isn't actually an issue of hunger.
There is fun and then there is stupidity.
It used to bother me that at my old school there was a praise system for whoever hosted the most 'events' for their students such as ice cream day or pizza day. If the school foots the bill, fine. If I foot the bill, well happy students is all I ask for. If I don't fit the bill and neither does the school, and another teacher is buying food, am I a bad teacher? No. |
Exactly! Well said. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 1:04 am Post subject: |
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If the kids are spending so much time studying that they don't have time to eat, do you think your kindness should subsidize their parent's stupidity?
Also, if you are feeding your kids as a bribe for enrollment and job security, both you and your director are *beep*.
If you want to give your kids food out of random niceness or as part of a lesson, that's fine. The other reasons aren't good reasons. |
However Mr. Phaedrus, some people can't teach and therefore feel they have to give the kids candy in order for job security. Let's not be too hard on Mr. mindmetoo. After all he has to put food on the table somehow. |
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