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Jobs for Koreans in China or Canada?
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again this board has surprised me! Such excellent, thoughtful responses. My original, sloppily phrased question hardly seems worthy of such insightful answers.

Certainly we plan on marrying before we move to another country (if we in fact do move).

We have some time to plan things out and see what's up, so I'm not too worried. I'm sure things will work out if we put in the right effort and make smart choices.

Thanks again everyone! Perhaps in a few years I'll add our success story to this thread!
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BananaBan



Joined: 16 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Jobs for Koreans in China or Canada? Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
BananaBan wrote:
Alberta province has ...


I'm curious... are you a native english speaker? I ask this because I have never heard this phrased this way.



lol, i am a native speaker and sometimes i get lazy on how i say things

the proper way to say it is:

"the province of Alberta has..."

but you can understand why i just decided to write "Alberta province" right?

Wink

and how the hell did u get such a big avatar?
i would like to add an avatar to my account but i am afraid the changes will freeze my account again Laughing


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BananaBan



Joined: 16 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Jobs for Koreans in China or Canada? Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
BananaBan wrote:
What type of salary would she want if she were to move in Canada?

And where in Canada you guys plan to settle in is an important question? For example, Alberta province has greater job prospects than Ontario and Quebec.



True in many fields but Ontario and Quebec have high demand in many fields as well! Just gotta pick.



thats also true.

many good jobs here in Toronto, but they require at least 3 years of experience, so what many recent grads do is go to Alberta, get that 3 years of experience and then move back home to get the jobs

well... at least thats what i am faced with, i just graduated a few weeks ago from a Toronto univ

Razz
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Jobs for Koreans in China or Canada? Reply with quote

BananaBan wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
BananaBan wrote:
What type of salary would she want if she were to move in Canada?

And where in Canada you guys plan to settle in is an important question? For example, Alberta province has greater job prospects than Ontario and Quebec.



True in many fields but Ontario and Quebec have high demand in many fields as well! Just gotta pick.



thats also true.

many good jobs here in Toronto, but they require at least 3 years of experience, so what many recent grads do is go to Alberta, get that 3 years of experience and then move back home to get the jobs

well... at least thats what i am faced with, i just graduated a few weeks ago from a Toronto univ

Razz


Very field dependant and University is not the onlyu way to go to find work in Canada, especially for an immigrant. Trades are in demand in many provinces for example and many pay quite well.
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Trinny



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible to find a decent job in Canada, but to get one, she needs to have some specialized skill sets that are hard to come by (i.e. remote sensing specialists, RF/radar/embedded software engineers, Digital signal processing/wireless protocols engineers, etc).

Yes, it is a very good idea to get a Canadian diploma or degree, especially the one with co-op option. This way, you get one year experience in a field you want to get into, plus you get to network with people. Provincial colleges can be a better option than universities, because a) tuition is much lower than that of universities, 2) you get some hands-on skills.

Does she speak French? Much better chance getting somewhere east of Toronto.

Some Korean women I've met in Canada are mostly house wives, community outreach workers, retirement home care givers, artists, bookkeepers, free lance music teachers. Husbands are the primary income earners, and the wives supplement it. It would be hard for you to have full double income with a Korean spouse. Unfortunately, you need double income to live in Canada (unless you make good enough money and really watch where you spend your money).
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BananaBan



Joined: 16 Nov 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Jobs for Koreans in China or Canada? Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
BananaBan wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
BananaBan wrote:
What type of salary would she want if she were to move in Canada?

And where in Canada you guys plan to settle in is an important question? For example, Alberta province has greater job prospects than Ontario and Quebec.



True in many fields but Ontario and Quebec have high demand in many fields as well! Just gotta pick.



thats also true.

many good jobs here in Toronto, but they require at least 3 years of experience, so what many recent grads do is go to Alberta, get that 3 years of experience and then move back home to get the jobs

well... at least thats what i am faced with, i just graduated a few weeks ago from a Toronto univ

Razz


Very field dependant and University is not the onlyu way to go to find work in Canada, especially for an immigrant. Trades are in demand in many provinces for example and many pay quite well.


oh yea thats right, i totally forgot about trades

according to policy research i worked with, the demand for trades will outstrip supply of suitable people (people learning trades will decline). thus, a big opportunity lies here. i forgot if it was northern ontario specific or ontario in general
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These responses are quite interesting to me. In my/our case, I actually think my wife has a stronger resume than me and will have little issue finding a job in Canada.

Perhaps that just wishful thinking though. lol
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
These responses are quite interesting to me. In my/our case, I actually think my wife has a stronger resume than me and will have little issue finding a job in Canada.

Perhaps that just wishful thinking though. lol


Could turn out that way but its not all that easy for immigrants to get work in their field or close to it.

I have no idea what your wife is qualified in and what her track record is professionally however.

All I can tell you is that out of all the mixed couples (Korean-Canadian) we know who moved to Canada (my wife is part of a group that has events for Koreans who immigrate..mixed couples or not) the vast majority had to retrain or work in another field than the one they were working in in Korea.

Good luck to you CC if and when you do the move.
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Ginormousaurus



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

Great thread so far. I have some questions about getting permanent residency in Canada. Rather than start a new thread, I'd like to add to this one since the topics are similar.

I used to teach in Korea, but now I'm back in Canada pursuing an engineering degree. I met my girlfriend while I was in Korea and now we are planning for her to come to Canada in a couple weeks and apply for permanent residency. She was here for one year on a working-holiday visa. During that time we lived together and filed our income tax as common law. She has visited Canada on two other occasions for a period of 3 months each.

I understand that getting permanent residency is difficult. Will it be possible for her to get it considering we are common law? Will the fact that I am a student and have no income prevent her from receiving it? For what it's worth, my mom is willing to "sponsor" her if that's possible.

I realize that I have a lot of research on the topic to do, but I was hoping someone may have some similar experience. This has all come up rather suddenly as I was supposed to return to Korea after Christmas to attend KAIST for a year (I was accepted yesterday!), but a recent tragedy in the family has forced a sudden change of plans.

Thanks for any info.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ginormousaurus wrote:
Hi all,

Great thread so far. I have some questions about getting permanent residency in Canada. Rather than start a new thread, I'd like to add to this one since the topics are similar.

I used to teach in Korea, but now I'm back in Canada pursuing an engineering degree. I met my girlfriend while I was in Korea and now we are planning for her to come to Canada in a couple weeks and apply for permanent residency. She was here for one year on a working-holiday visa. During that time we lived together and filed our income tax as common law. She has visited Canada on two other occasions for a period of 3 months each.

I understand that getting permanent residency is difficult. Will it be possible for her to get it considering we are common law? Will the fact that I am a student and have no income prevent her from receiving it? For what it's worth, my mom is willing to "sponsor" her if that's possible.

I realize that I have a lot of research on the topic to do, but I was hoping someone may have some similar experience. This has all come up rather suddenly as I was supposed to return to Korea after Christmas to attend KAIST for a year (I was accepted yesterday!), but a recent tragedy in the family has forced a sudden change of plans.

Thanks for any info.


For her to have any chance you need to sponsor her. No one else can do that.

To sponsor her you need to be married or prove you are a couple under the law.

From the immi site:

Quote:
If you are in a common‑law relationship

You can sponsor the person as your common‑law partner
� regardless of his or her sex, and
you are cohabiting in a conjugal relationship and have done so for at least one year.


From the immi site:

Quote:
Sponsorship eligibility

In order to sponsor, you must...
�be 18 years of age or older,
�be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident,
�be sponsoring a member of the Spouse or Common‑law Partner in Canada Class,
�live in Canada and continue to live in Canada after the sponsored person obtains permanent resident status,
�sign an agreement with your spouse or common‑law partner confirming that each of you understands your obligations and responsibilities,
�sign an undertaking promising to provide for your spouse or common‑law partner�s basic requirements and, if applicable, those of his or her dependent children,
�prove that you have sufficient income to provide basic requirements for your spouse or common‑law partner�s dependent children. To do this, you must provide documents showing your financial resources for the past 12 months. This requirement applies only when dependent children who have dependent children of their own are included on the application.


My wife is a permanent resident and we moved here in 2008. I sponsored her and had to provide financial statements for example. She also underwent a medical test and had to submit all sorts of documents with official translations when it was necessary.

Your best bet is to contact immigration directly instead of asking here however. Smile

check this out: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5289ETOC.asp#5289E2
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick, my wife is US educated, internationally certified, and has worked for an American company for the past 10 years. Again, no guarantees, but I think that looks decent on her resume.

Gino, I went through the process of getting my wife's PR about a year ago. From all that you're saying, I think you've got some strike working against ya.
-you need to prove you can finally support the person you're sponsoring. If you're still in school, that'd be tough.
-you're not married nor are you living together.

Basically, I'd be surprised if you could get PR for what seems to be a girlfriend. That being said, ya never know. I'd contact immigration in Canada and see what they have to say. They might surprise ya, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Ginormousaurus



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick and CC, thanks for the info. Although it was generally bad news, it was what I was looking for.

From what I can tell (and what I was afraid of), is that I meet all the requirements except the most important - financial. Although we lived together just fine for the last year, I'm sure that won't mean anything to them.

Thanks again.
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pegasus64128



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

litebear wrote:
I live in the Netherlands with my (Korean) missus and she works for a big Korean company here. She reckons over 70% of the staff are from Korea, she has been on business trips to a few other offices in Europe and and says they are the same. She also said that in some countries (Spain in particular) they often hire Koreans who have graduated from Uni in the country and give them non-technical jobs in fields like Marketing or Admin or whatever as it saves a package on relocating people from Korea. There are 5 or 6 who graduated from Dutch unis working in the Marketing dept of her office. The ability to speak Korean is so important that often the employees don't even have related degrees (in Marketing/Admin/HR I mean, not in the IT or tech jobs.

If you guys are planning on moving to a big city maybe scope out what big Korean companies have offices near there. Not sure how much it will help but could be an idea

yeah I wish my fellow countrymen gave a flying c$#* whether I was from our country and spoke our language. Go Koreans! Send that money back home - don't waste it on the waygooks, they'll use it to attack asdpiakministan or buy fast food to fatten their already overly lard-laden asses or perhaps they might invest it in .. ahh really Koreans should lighten up. The West is dtermined to give the East every penny it has so why not employ foreigners/whities/Africas etc.??? the money will just end up back in Asia in the end anyway so no biggy!!
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Patrick, my wife is US educated, internationally certified, and has worked for an American company for the past 10 years. Again, no guarantees, but I think that looks decent on her resume.


Well that certainly increases her odds then! Smile

Good for you guys CC. Smile
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegasus64128 wrote:
yeah I wish my fellow countrymen gave a flying c$#* whether I was from our country and spoke our language. Go Koreans! Send that money back home - don't waste it on the waygooks, they'll use it to attack asdpiakministan or buy fast food to fatten their already overly lard-laden asses or perhaps they might invest it in .. ahh really Koreans should lighten up. The West is dtermined to give the East every penny it has so why not employ foreigners/whities/Africas etc.??? the money will just end up back in Asia in the end anyway so no biggy!!


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