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Zulethe
Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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 Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:20 am Post subject: It's the most embarrassing time of the YEARRR Black Friday |
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/26/us/california-pepper-spray-suspect/?hpt=hp_t1
Los Angeles (CNN) -- A southern California woman turned herself in to authorities as the person who pepper sprayed video-game shoppers in a Walmart during Black Friday's shopping frenzy, Los Angeles police said Saturday.
I am truly embarrassed to be an American during this time of year. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:35 am Post subject: |
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The 99% hate corporate greed. But when it comes to fighting over $2.00 waffle irons, forget everyone else, may the most aggressive bully in the store win. It is all about me, myself and I. I support OWS's message, but garbage like this makes you really reflect on the greed of the 100%, not just the 1%.
I know times are tough, and there is a lot of blame to spread around as to why times are tough. But shooting each other, spraying mace, pushing, fighting, trampling - all to buy some made in China crap. It's pathetic.
I worked BF once at a large retailer at the shopping malls in the electronics department selling TVs. I have never seen such stupid people, so desperate to to buy crap models that are made just for BF, and other stuff that is on sale for the same price you can get it almost any other weekend or online. |
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alwaysgood
Joined: 15 Aug 2011
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| jrwhite82 wrote: |
The 99% hate corporate greed. But when it comes to fighting over $2.00 waffle irons, forget everyone else, may the most aggressive bully in the store win. It is all about me, myself and I. I support OWS's message, but garbage like this makes you really reflect on the greed of the 100%, not just the 1%.
I know times are tough, and there is a lot of blame to spread around as to why times are tough. But shooting each other, spraying mace, pushing, fighting, trampling - all to buy some made in China crap. It's pathetic.
I worked BF once at a large retailer at the shopping malls in the electronics department selling TVs. I have never seen such stupid people, so desperate to to buy crap models that are made just for BF, and other stuff that is on sale for the same price you can get it almost any other weekend or online. |
I'm pretty sure OWS doesn't support Black Friday. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure you didnt read what I wrote. I never said they support it. I said everyone gets greedy, not just the 1%. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| I'm pretty sure you didnt read what I wrote. I never said they support it. I said everyone gets greedy, not just the 1%. |
Except the 1% get away with it. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| I'm pretty sure you didnt read what I wrote. I never said they support it. I said everyone gets greedy, not just the 1%. |
Except the 1% get away with it. |
Tell that to the dozens of 99% who have fudged their taxes, have unpaid parking tickets, delinquent cell phone bills, and have done a good ol' snatch n run at the local Kwik-E-Mart. |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| she doesn't get points for turning herself in? |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| I'm pretty sure you didnt read what I wrote. I never said they support it. I said everyone gets greedy, not just the 1%. |
Except the 1% get away with it. |
Tell that to the dozens of 99% who have fudged their taxes, have unpaid parking tickets, delinquent cell phone bills, and have done a good ol' snatch n run at the local Kwik-E-Mart. |
The difference is, if people are caught for any of these crimes they stand a good chance of being heavily punished. On the other hand if you're a director of the likes of Citigroup, Goldman Sachs or the Deutsche Bank and you engage in fraud, chances are you will only be required to pay a small fine and made promise you will be a good boy or girl in future.
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Woman Gets Jail For Food-Stamp Fraud; Wall Street Fraudsters Get Bailouts
Last week, a federal judge in Mississippi sentenced a mother of two named Anita McLemore to three years in federal prison for lying on a government application in order to obtain food stamps.
Apparently in this country you become ineligible to eat if you have a record of criminal drug offenses. States have the option of opting out of that federal ban, but Mississippi is not one of those states. Since McLemore had four drug convictions in her past, she was ineligible to receive food stamps, so she lied about her past in order to feed her two children.
The total "cost" of her fraud was $4,367. She has paid the money back. But paying the money back was not enough for federal Judge Henry Wingate.
Wingate had the option of sentencing McLemore according to federal guidelines, which would have left her with a term of two months to eight months, followed by probation. Not good enough! Wingate was so outraged by McLemore�s fraud that he decided to serve her up the deluxe vacation, using another federal statute that permitted him to give her up to five years.
He ultimately gave her three years, saying, "The defendant's criminal record is simply abominable �. She has been the beneficiary of government generosity in state court."
Compare this court decision to the fraud settlements on Wall Street. Like McLemore, fraud defendants like Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and Deutsche Bank have "been the beneficiary of government generosity." Goldman got $12.9 billion just through the AIG bailout. Citigroup got $45 billion, plus hundreds of billions in government guarantees.
All of these companies have been repeatedly dragged into court for fraud, and not one individual defendant has ever been forced to give back anything like a significant portion of his ill-gotten gains. The closest we've come is in a fraud case involving Citi, in which a pair of executives, Gary Crittenden and Arthur Tildesley, were fined the token amounts of $100,000 and $80,000, respectively, for lying to shareholders about the extent of Citi�s debt.
Neither man was forced to admit to intentional fraud. Both got to keep their jobs.
Anita McLemore, meanwhile, lied to feed her children, gave back every penny of her "fraud" when she got caught, and is now going to do three years in prison. Explain that, Eric Holder! |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| I'm pretty sure you didnt read what I wrote. I never said they support it. I said everyone gets greedy, not just the 1%. |
Except the 1% get away with it. |
Tell that to the dozens of 99% who have fudged their taxes, have unpaid parking tickets, delinquent cell phone bills, and have done a good ol' snatch n run at the local Kwik-E-Mart. |
Curious.
Do you mean to come across as having the elitist POV that you do in fact come across as having? Are you in fact the John Galt-in-training that you present yourself as? |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Tell that to the dozens of 99% who have fudged their taxes, have unpaid parking tickets, delinquent cell phone bills, and have done a good ol' snatch n run at the local Kwik-E-Mart. |
Hah..really now? ...Is this something Charlie Murphy said?... 'cause it sounds like someone trying damn hard to entertain.
Explain how the rules are the same for people like you and me, versus people like Dick Cheney or George Anderson. You could even apologize for Korea in the same breath by using the example of Han Hwa's Kim Seung Yoon. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: It's the most embarrassing time of the YEARRR Black Frid |
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| Zulethe wrote: |
| I am truly embarrassed to be an American during this time of year. |
Would you feel even more embarrassed if you were to learn that the lady who pepper sprayed everything is now thinking of suing Walmart?
Elizabeth Macias, the woman who pepper-sprayed fellow shoppers at a Porter Ranch Walmart, is considering legal action against the big box store, her attorney said Friday.
Woodland Hills-based attorney Michael Champ believes Walmart failed to provide adequate security to protect his client and her two teenage children.
Macias's son and daughter were "traumatized" when shoppers attacked them on Thanksgiving evening as they tried to purchase Xbox game consoles, he said.
"There wasn't adequate security or protection," said Champ, who said he is exploring legal options.
In an incident that drew international attention, Macias pepper-sprayed other shoppers amid a frenzy over the unveiling of game consoles. |
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bueblo
Joined: 04 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: It's the most embarrassing time of the YEARRR Black Frid |
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| madoka wrote: |
| Zulethe wrote: |
| I am truly embarrassed to be an American during this time of year. |
Would you feel even more embarrassed if you were to learn that the lady who pepper sprayed everything is now thinking of suing Walmart?
Elizabeth Macias, the woman who pepper-sprayed fellow shoppers at a Porter Ranch Walmart, is considering legal action against the big box store, her attorney said Friday.
Woodland Hills-based attorney Michael Champ believes Walmart failed to provide adequate security to protect his client and her two teenage children.
Macias's son and daughter were "traumatized" when shoppers attacked them on Thanksgiving evening as they tried to purchase Xbox game consoles, he said.
"There wasn't adequate security or protection," said Champ, who said he is exploring legal options.
In an incident that drew international attention, Macias pepper-sprayed other shoppers amid a frenzy over the unveiling of game consoles. |
This happened in Porter Ranch? I used to live right next to the city for many years while I was in California. It's quite the upper class neighborhood, gated communities peppered all across the valley. I used to go to school with kids who would talk about how they lived in the 'poor' gated community, cause their houses didn't have 3 stories or something. 
I hate Black Friday, and I think it really brings out the 'best' of 'America' out of Americans. I'm glad I wasn't in the country when all this bs happened. I could stand behind suing Wal-Mart for creating these pathetic situations where people become wild animals over $2 hankies, but 'inadequate protection'? |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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Once you have people being trampled to death at the opening of an Ikea (or any other shop), you can join us Brits on the Truly Insane Shoppers' Table.
(Once we've assembled it, that is) |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Tell that to the dozens of 99% who have fudged their taxes, have unpaid parking tickets, delinquent cell phone bills, and have done a good ol' snatch n run at the local Kwik-E-Mart. |
Hah..really now? ...Is this something Charlie Murphy said?... 'cause it sounds like someone trying damn hard to entertain.
Explain how the rules are the same for people like you and me, versus people like Dick Cheney or George Anderson. You could even apologize for Korea in the same breath by using the example of Han Hwa's Kim Seung Yoon. |
First off instead of dozens I should have said millions. Second of, its not like poor people never get slapped on the wrist either.
Do you honestly believe that poor people dont commit crimes all the time and never get away with it or never go in-n-out through the revolving door?
And yes Ive never seen rich people go to jail or get busted...
Is the system totally level? No. But please spare us the tripe of the innocent poor vs. the monstrous rich. Poor people cand be every bit as nasty and exploitave as the rich and they too often get away with it. Easier for them to slip through the cracks. |
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