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Au Pairs? Nannys? Is this a win win?

 
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herenorthere56



Joined: 15 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:09 am    Post subject: Au Pairs? Nannys? Is this a win win? Reply with quote

Anyone had any success being here in Korea as a foreigner, and found decent employment as an au pair/nanny? I've done this type of work in the past, and I am trying to broaden my horizon. My hakwon gig is really giving me the run a round. Any comments, advice, stories about going from teaching to nannying? Any ideas, contacts, help! I would so appreciate it. (Oh, and yes, I have a CBC, a bachelors degree and years of experience as a nanny. And some teaching. So, any ideas for me? Maybe you know someone who might?

Cheers,
Jenny
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Lynns



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you can get a visa to do that legally, unfortunately.
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't think Koreans typically 'do' nannies as we think of it in the West. Seems like either extended family [e.g.grandparents] or at-home spouses handle child care. And why do you think kinder hagwons are so popular?

And I'm 99.5% certain that no foreigner would ever get a visa for such a thing. Search for 'list of Korean visas' on Wikipedia and you'll see. Plus, even if they were culturally and legally open to it [they're not], why would they bring Westerners in instead of, say, Filipinos, who would be far cheaper, are practically next-door neighbors, and are equally capable in English?

You'd be better served searching for a new hagwon.
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hwarangi



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible for wealthy ex-pat families to sponsor domestic help.

Usually they move here with the family, though.

http://www.korea4expats.com/article-sponsoring-homehelp.html

Depending on your age/ nationality (Australian/ under 30), you might be able to get a working holiday visa and pick up up some nanny work that way.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
I really don't think Koreans typically 'do' nannies as we think of it in the West. Seems like either extended family [e.g.grandparents] or at-home spouses handle child care. And why do you think kinder hagwons are so popular?

And I'm 99.5% certain that no foreigner would ever get a visa for such a thing. Search for 'list of Korean visas' on Wikipedia and you'll see. Plus, even if they were culturally and legally open to it [they're not], why would they bring Westerners in instead of, say, Filipinos, who would be far cheaper, are practically next-door neighbors, and are equally capable in English?

You'd be better served searching for a new hagwon.



You're offbase on this one.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/05/123_45254.html


According to this article there are about 4000 foreign nannies alone in South Korea.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
You're offbase on this one.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/05/123_45254.html

According to this article there are about 4000 foreign nannies alone in South Korea.


``It's the nanny,'' says the 36-year-old working mom, referring to her Filipino nanny-housekeeper, who has been with her for 10 months. ``She spends more time with my son than I do, so I guess it's only natural that he's learning from her.''

...

Kim says her son has become much more comfortable with English after interacting with the Filipino domestic help, who spends about 10 hours per day at her house.

...

The demand is enormous,'' said Kim Seok, who runs an Internet site ( http://www.nannyjob.co.kr ) that helps connect parents and jobseekers. He explained that Filipinos are most favored

...

Korean housekeepers typically gets paid 40,000 to 50,000 won per four-hour standard shift, but their foreign counterparts receive about 50,000 to 60,000 won for an eight-hour workday. Live-in ``au pairs'' are also less costly.

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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
You're offbase on this one.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/05/123_45254.html

According to this article there are about 4000 foreign nannies alone in South Korea.


``It's the nanny,'' says the 36-year-old working mom, referring to her Filipino nanny-housekeeper, who has been with her for 10 months. ``She spends more time with my son than I do, so I guess it's only natural that he's learning from her.''

...

Kim says her son has become much more comfortable with English after interacting with the Filipino domestic help, who spends about 10 hours per day at her house.

...

The demand is enormous,'' said Kim Seok, who runs an Internet site ( http://www.nannyjob.co.kr ) that helps connect parents and jobseekers. He explained that Filipinos are most favored

...

Korean housekeepers typically gets paid 40,000 to 50,000 won per four-hour standard shift, but their foreign counterparts receive about 50,000 to 60,000 won for an eight-hour workday. Live-in ``au pairs'' are also less costly.

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In future it would be appreciated if you would quote me IN THE CONTEXT OF THE STATEMENT I WAS REPLYING TO.

Mr. Modernist wrote this in regards to nannies
Quote:
"And I'm 99.5% certain that no foreigner would ever get a visa for such a thing"

(bolding mine)

Since Filipinos ARE foreigners and since some are nannies here he was wrong.

That is what I was replying to. I was NOT advocating that the OP get a job as one.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4000 "foreigners" = yes.

Foreigners with a visa to work as a nanny = no, or not many.

Many of them are either illegals; personal experience at the help center and documentation from the foreign migrants center:

i) undocumented (ran from their employer (often E6) and unable to return home).
ii) F3 (family working without permission from immigration).
iii) in a few cases (personal friends among them) married to a Korean (F2).

Jobs an "E2 qualified" person would want to fill = probably not.

I wasn't disputing your claim... just clarifying who those 4000 were and the terms many of them work under and it is within the context of your post and the thread.

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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As entry level nannying - you'll have to do it on a tourist visa. greataupair.com has a few Korean posts. For more professional positions, you'd be better finding a high-brow governess/nanny agency - lots in the US and Europe, but not sure about agenices in Korea. Usually you need tons of experience and quals to land the best gigs that also include visa sponsorship.

My two cents - teaching is much easier than being a live-in nanny. At least you get to go home and have a break at the end of the day as a teacher. As a nanny, you're under even more scrutiny than at a school, and can be called upon to serve the household round the clock. It can be much more exhausting than teaching.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though I'm sure you couldn't legally get a visa to be a nanny here, we have a Korean nanny. Close enough, anyway, as she is here 8:30am to 7:30pm five days a week. We pay 1.2 million, if you're curious. She does a really good job, and we're happy. She also does laundry for us, although she doesn't have to. Has a very cheerful personality, and I can see where it has rubbed-off some on our daughter. Her daughter went to Yonsei, which makes my wife happy.

There was a gov't babysitter service we were using for a few months, but it was annoying because they kept changing people on us every 2 to 3 weeks. We had some who I liked, and some I didn't feel confident leaving our daughter alone with. Shocked

My favorite scary story is when my 10 month-old daughter had something on her face, and the babysitter, who was there for the first day, grabbed the chemical toy-cleaner wet tissues, which smell like ammonia (which were clearly marked in Korean, too) to try and wipe off my daughter's mouth. Luckily, I was there to stop it!
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