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'Foreign English teachers necessary': poll of Korean parents
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happiness



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the mistake all of you make is the idea of efficiency. in koreas case, they wont follow it, because itll make someone lose face.

trust me, in 11 years, i roll my eyes daily. actually i stopped rolling my eyes.
i just dont tell anyone and do it anyway..
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama was recently quoted in a speech to the American Teachers assc. "They call upon the U.S. to supply American teachers to do the job that Korean teachers should do. Change - RIGHT NOW. We are not about to send American teachers nine or ten thousand miles away from home to Korea to do what Korean teachers ought to be doing for themselves."

Razz
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Died By Bear wrote:
Obama was recently quoted in a speech to the American Teachers assc. "They call upon the U.S. to supply American teachers to do the job that Korean teachers should do. Change - RIGHT NOW. We are not about to send American teachers nine or ten thousand miles away from home to Korea to do what Korean teachers ought to be doing for themselves."

Razz


Oh that wacky Obama...he also said:

Speaking to a classroom at Kenmore Middle School, in Arlington, Virginia, Obama said, "In South Korea, teachers are known as nation builders. I think it's time we treated our teachers with the same level of respect right here in the United States of America."

and also said:

"In South Korea, teachers are known as 'nation builders,'" Obama said at the time. "That's how they're described. Here in America, it's time we treated the people who educate our children with the same level of respect. We've got to lift up teachers. We've got to reward good teachers. Also, we also have to stop making excuses for bad teachers."

Interestingly enough these comments were critized by many Koreans in government and in the field of education even if they were compliments.

Amazin...
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Died By Bear wrote:
Obama was recently quoted in a speech to the American Teachers assc. "They call upon the U.S. to supply American teachers to do the job that Korean teachers should do. Change - RIGHT NOW. We are not about to send American teachers nine or ten thousand miles away from home to Korea to do what Korean teachers ought to be doing for themselves."

Razz


Oh that wacky Obama...he also said:

Speaking to a classroom at Kenmore Middle School, in Arlington, Virginia, Obama said, "In South Korea, teachers are known as nation builders. I think it's time we treated our teachers with the same level of respect right here in the United States of America."

and also said:

"In South Korea, teachers are known as 'nation builders,'" Obama said at the time. "That's how they're described. Here in America, it's time we treated the people who educate our children with the same level of respect. We've got to lift up teachers. We've got to reward good teachers. Also, we also have to stop making excuses for bad teachers."

Interestingly enough these comments were critized by many Koreans in government and in the field of education even if they were compliments.

Amazin...



Did you ever study the Vietnam war in school? Very Happy

If the answer to that is no, then please replace the words 'teachers' with 'boys' and 'Koreans' with 'Asians' and then plug the newly revised sentence into google. Very Happy Have a blessed day my friend. Razz
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did study that in school (Vietnam War) and the similarities are pretty striking indeed!

Well said.
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Died By Bear



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No! THere are no similarities, I was KIDDING, Obama never said what I wrote. Only Johnson said it during the war. I was just KIDDING.
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zdrav



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Foreign English teachers necessary': poll of Korean par Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
Yaya wrote:
reduce fear of foreigners.


This is one of the things I get asked about from parents. They want their kids to not be afraid of talking to foreigners. Does this strike anyone else as weird? I can't ever recall being afraid of talking to white people as a kid and all the foreigners I know who take Korean lessons don't seem to be afraid of talking to Koreans in Korean despite their lack of ability in the language.


Korea's such a homogeneous country that some Koreans have an irrational fear of associating with white people, kind of like how some white people have irrational fears of associating with blacks or Latinos.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Died By Bear wrote:
No! THere are no similarities, I was KIDDING, Obama never said what I wrote. Only Johnson said it during the war. I was just KIDDING.


Similaries in the statement is eerily similar...I dug through my notes from that University class on US Foreign policy and it was similar language...but of course it had a completely different tone and aim.

Byt the way, Obama never said what you initially wrote either. When he discussed teachers he was talking globally about the fact that the US should be able to offer its own qualified teachers job locally instead of having them have to go abroad (including Korea).

Cheers
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nate1983



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoylaMBPolymath wrote:


In high school and university I learned Spanish from "white people" (I am one half Mexican American on my mother's side, so it wasn't my first exposure to the Spanish language), and they were remarkably effective instructors with marked education in the discipline at hand.


I think you're missing a key point here: most native Spanish speakers are "white people," while most native Korean speakers are not "white people."
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