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koreatimes
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| It only serves to provide more accurate information for those seeking help. |
No, what you are doing is misreading posts and making up false conclusions. Their post uses the word "file". Do you know what file means? It does not mean an action is done.
You would file as a means to BEGIN an action, not end.
Second point, the Korean teacher takes 5 minutes between classes. We could surmise from this that classes have at least 5 minutes in between, or the Korean teacher is not teaching 5 minutes of their scheduled class.
Your continued attacks have not accomplished anything. It just disrupts the thread, and we have to correct you. Please stop it. |
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jrwhite82
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| It only serves to provide more accurate information for those seeking help. |
No, what you are doing is misreading posts and making up false conclusions. Their post uses the word "file". Do you know what file means? It does not mean an action is done.
You would file as a means to BEGIN an action, not end. |
Who is "their"? Do you mean "his"?
The students file in and TAKE THEIR SEATS. The filing is done when the seats are taken. This is obvious. It is mind boggling that you don't understand this. Not only that, but you claim I don't understand this.  Sure filing is an ongoing action (like any present progressive verb). No one said otherwise. The action is completed however when the students take their seats. You are no longer filing when you are in your seat. You even quoted the "take their seats" in your bold writing earlier. So you must know this. But maybe not...
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Second point, the Korean teacher takes 5 minutes between classes. We could surmise from this that classes have at least 5 minutes in between, or the Korean teacher is not teaching 5 minutes of their scheduled class.
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Yeah, I've already addressed this issue. Welcome to the party. It is something that doesn't make sense with his (not "their") story. That is why I said:
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| ATCAI - How long have you been at this school? How is it that the Korean teacher is able to take 5 minute breaks between classes but you are not? Don't you guys have the same rotation? Or are her kids just going ape-poop inside her classroom while she is in the bathroom talking on her handphone and the director says nothing? |
All we know at this point is that he (not they) said he (not they) has 30 seconds between classes and even during that 30 seconds the director expects him (not them) to be in his (not their) classroom. You might think he has 5 minutes, but who knows, maybe the director schedules 45 minute classes with the NET and 40 with the KET. The likely scenario is both this guy and his Korean coworker have the same schedule but the director wants the teachers present in their classrooms during transitions. But only enforces it when it comes to the NET. |
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:09 am Post subject: |
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jrwhite82,
You argued about 30 seconds not 5 minutes. That's why I posted what I did earlier.
You argued about filing, now you recognize they have to take their seats. That's why I posted what I did earlier.
Good day. See you on another thread. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:21 am Post subject: |
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jrwhite82,
You argued about 30 seconds not 5 minutes. That's why I posted what I did earlier.
You argued about filing, now you recognize they have to take their seats. That's why I posted what I did earlier.
Good day. See you on another thread. |
Yes. I gave advice based on what the guy said about 30 seconds. And I asked him more questions about the 5 minutes his Korean coworker has that he didn't get. You told him what you do with 10 minutes. A good story but not a helpful or on topic one.
No where did I forget they had to take their seats. You didn't understand file. You even asked a question about it. I answered it. |
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koreatimes
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:00 am Post subject: |
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I think I see what you are trying to say but you mean 3rd person gender neutral singular. Not 3rd person plural. So still you're technically not right. And you saying third person plural makes me further believe you used their in the third person plural form not 3rd person gender neutral singular.
You should say grammatical use of "their". If you wanted to correctly make your point.
I am assuming the poster is male. But I might not be right. |
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| I think I see what you are trying to say |
That's a step in the right direction. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| I think I see what you are trying to say |
That's a step in the right direction. |
I'd call it more of a leap of faith than a step because that is what is required to try to understand some of your nonsensical posts.
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Nonsense backed up by wikipedia and other sites, amazing.
You should really knock off with the attacks. You struck out in this thread. The game is over. You messed up with the 30 second argument. Using any sense, students need more than 30 seconds, but because you only make conclusions based on what you see and ignore common sense, you end up missing the big picture.
Then you went off on a tangent to try to rationalize your 30 second stance by saying filing. Later, you admitted they had to go sit in their seats.
Lastly, the lack of English usage because you only want to apply simple grammar rules really exposes your limited awareness and why you might think people are saying things you don't understand.
Learn to accept what people say, and you will later learn that it isn't nonsense.
I am sure you will retort back with some Monday night quarterback rationalization why you perceive things so accurately and why others are not making sense. Go ahead, sing the same tune over and over again. |
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nero
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Girls, girls! Don't fight! You are both pretty!
(at the moment I am thinking Jrwhite82 is prettier, though). |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| koreatimes wrote: |
Nonsense backed up by wikipedia and other sites, amazing.
You should really knock off with the attacks. You struck out in this thread. The game is over. You messed up with the 30 second argument. Using any sense, students need more than 30 seconds, but because you only make conclusions based on what you see and ignore common sense, you end up missing the big picture.
Then you went off on a tangent to try to rationalize your 30 second stance by saying filing. Later, you admitted they had to go sit in their seats.
Lastly, the lack of English usage because you only want to apply simple grammar rules really exposes your limited awareness and why you might think people are saying things you don't understand.
Learn to accept what people say, and you will later learn that it isn't nonsense.
I am sure you will retort back with some Monday night quarterback rationalization why you perceive things so accurately and why others are not making sense. Go ahead, sing the same tune over and over again. |
Lack of English usage. You made the mistake by defending your usage of the word their as 3rd person plural. But you meant 3rd person gender neutral singular, which I pointed out. That is funny. Because that is how I interpreted it in the first place.
And for someone who says I lack English usage...I'm pretty sure you mean Monday MORNING Quaterback. A very common expression. I'm surprised you don't know it.
I'm sure no one has bothered to read this thread this far, but if they did, they would know that it is you not I who screwed up with understanding the 30 second thing. How long does it take to have 8-10 kids sit down in their seats? If it takes a small group of kids more than 30 seconds you might want to reflect on what you're doing as a teacher.
And I do accept what you say. I accept that it is bad advice, which is why I offer my criticisms and counter points.
See you in another thread!
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Girls, girls! Don't fight! You are both pretty!
(at the moment I am thinking Jrwhite82 is prettier, though). |
[southern belle accent]Why I do say Mr. Nero! Don't make me blush![/southern belle accent] |
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure you mean Monday MORNING Quaterback. |
These are the final nails in your coffin. I see both listed, and third person plural is a form for people. It's not always neutral. I wasn't referring to neutral, I was referring to indefinite gender.
You really need to read up instead of showing your ignorance. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure you mean Monday MORNING Quaterback. |
These are the final nails in your coffin. I see both listed, and third person plural is a form for people, not alway neutral. I wasn't referring to neutral, I was referring to indefinite gender.
You really need to read up instead of showing your ignorance. |
Where do you see Monday Night Quarterback as an expression used for someone who judges something after the fact? I'd love to see your source.
If you mean that I am a Monday Night Quarterback, as in someone who is ready to play in the prime time most watched game of the week? Well then thanks for the compliment.
I never said that "their" when used as third person plural is gender anything. It obviously does not refer to gender in that form because there is more than one person, of which they can be of any combination of genders. Since you continue to keep trying to defend your use of "their" as correct because it is 3rd person plural, I will continue to laugh.
You said:
You are not using "their" as 3rd person plural. You are using it as 3rd person gender neutral singular (or 3rd person gender "indefinite" singular" it doesn't change my point). Because AMCAI's gender is unknown. Unless you think that AMCAI is really more than one person typing on the keyboard. Which I guess is possible if they are like a Siamese Twin or something. But then, they wouldn't refer to themselves as "I" or "me" but as "we".
You should have said:
"Grammatical use (possibilities) of the pronoun "they":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_person
For anyone who wants to learn."
Get it? |
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koreatimes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Where do you see Monday Night Quarterback as an expression used for someone who judges something after the fact? I'd love to see your source. |
It wasn't meant as an expression. That wasn't how I intended it to be read. For example, TGIF has multiple meanings.
Your glove is open, but you persist to only look at things in one direction, while the ball is being thrown behind you. You need to check all angles if you want to understand. TURN AROUND, LOOK AT THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE BEFORE YOU CHANT YOUR MANTRA, "THE BALL WASN'T THROWN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY RAN ALL THE WAY HOME. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE."
Seriously, that's what I feel like reading your posts. It's like an outfielder standing out in left field (there, you have an expression, like it?). They aren't watching the game, and they lose it because they are too stubborn (well, at least in your case).
Yes, I get it, as stated previously. Good luck thinking things out in the future. No hard feelings intended. |
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