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catman
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Don't forget the infamous piece that Harper wrote in the WSJ
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| "Today, the world is at war,". "A coalition of countries under the leadership of the U.K. and the U.S. is leading a military intervention to disarm Saddam Hussein. Yet Prime Minister Jean Chretien has left Canada outside this multilateral coalition of nations. This is a serious mistake." |
He only recanted once the war became overwhelmingly unpopular. He had an election to worry about. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
Don't forget the infamous piece that Harper wrote in the WSJ
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| "Today, the world is at war,". "A coalition of countries under the leadership of the U.K. and the U.S. is leading a military intervention to disarm Saddam Hussein. Yet Prime Minister Jean Chretien has left Canada outside this multilateral coalition of nations. This is a serious mistake." |
He only recanted once the war became overwhelmingly unpopular. He had an election to worry about. |
Like I said it was a sound bite while he was in Opposition. Once he got into power he changed his tune.
It's very easy to say what changes you would have made while you are not in a position to make changes anyway. Once you actually get into power and have full access to what capacity you have to make changes...you might find yourself far more limited then you had thought.
Likewise it's politically expedient to fire up your base and score political points off the opposing side. If Jean Chretien had supported the war Harper would have probably denounced him for a war-monger. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Afghanistan, Libya, Iran and he would have went to Iraq too if he would have been in power in 2003. This man is going to keep Canada safe from all the evil in the world. I heard the Harper's government is even sending warships in the Arctic to protect us from those godless Danes! Finally a man that will stand up for Canada and not waste money on things like welfare for the poor. God Bless Steven J. Harper! |
It was the LIBERAL government that sent troops to Afghanistan NOT Harper.
And Harper has sent no troops to Iran.
As for Libya
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As directed by the Government of Canada, Operation MOBILE (Canada's military response to the crisis in Libya) has ceased operations and commenced mission closure activities as of 1 November, 2011.
Operation MOBILE was the Canadian Forces' participation in Operation UNIFIED PROTECTOR, the NATO-led effort to impose on Libya the arms embargo and no-fly zone authorized in U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 of 17 March 2011, which called on the international community to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas in Libya.
Operation MOBILE comprised two task forces deployed in the central Mediterranean region, one based on land and the other at sea. Their combined personnel establishment totaled 630 Canadian Forces members. |
Whoa a whole 630 troops!  Which have ceased operations and are closing down.
Seriously what are you on about?
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/feature-vedette/2011/02/libya-libye-eng.asp |
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Kuros
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! Those ads are kind of viscous. |
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catman
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| catman wrote: |
Don't forget the infamous piece that Harper wrote in the WSJ
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| "Today, the world is at war,". "A coalition of countries under the leadership of the U.K. and the U.S. is leading a military intervention to disarm Saddam Hussein. Yet Prime Minister Jean Chretien has left Canada outside this multilateral coalition of nations. This is a serious mistake." |
He only recanted once the war became overwhelmingly unpopular. He had an election to worry about. |
Like I said it was a sound bite while he was in Opposition. Once he got into power he changed his tune.
It's very easy to say what changes you would have made while you are not in a position to make changes anyway. Once you actually get into power and have full access to what capacity you have to make changes...you might find yourself far more limited then you had thought.
Likewise it's politically expedient to fire up your base and score political points off the opposing side. If Jean Chretien had supported the war Harper would have probably denounced him for a war-monger. |
Writing a piece in a major pro-war publication in the US shaming Canada for not supporting the war is more than just a mere "sound bite". |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| catman wrote: |
Don't forget the infamous piece that Harper wrote in the WSJ
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| "Today, the world is at war,". "A coalition of countries under the leadership of the U.K. and the U.S. is leading a military intervention to disarm Saddam Hussein. Yet Prime Minister Jean Chretien has left Canada outside this multilateral coalition of nations. This is a serious mistake." |
He only recanted once the war became overwhelmingly unpopular. He had an election to worry about. |
Like I said it was a sound bite while he was in Opposition. Once he got into power he changed his tune.
It's very easy to say what changes you would have made while you are not in a position to make changes anyway. Once you actually get into power and have full access to what capacity you have to make changes...you might find yourself far more limited then you had thought.
Likewise it's politically expedient to fire up your base and score political points off the opposing side. If Jean Chretien had supported the war Harper would have probably denounced him for a war-monger. |
Writing a piece in a major pro-war publication in the US shaming Canada for not supporting the war is more than just a mere "sound bite". |
Like I said it's about firing up your political base and scoring political points.
He's also talked about protecting Canada's sovereignty in the Arctic ..but what exactly has he done about it?
Actions speak louder than words. When he actually backs it up then it's time to take him seriously.
And this is Canada after all...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/cdnmilitary/seaking.html |
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Kuros
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| In their glory days, the Sea Kings were mighty impressive, a source of national pride. The Canadians who operated them were esteemed around the world as inventive, brilliant and daring. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
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| In their glory days, the Sea Kings were mighty impressive, a source of national pride. The Canadians who operated them were esteemed around the worl | | | |
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