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[Kuros]

[radcon]

[rollo]

Russia loathes the Chinese. If they could win they would fight them right now. In 72 they came close to all out war. Soviets moved nuclear weapons east after Mao attacked Soviet Units in Siberia. Lets see skirmish with India in the 60's,had 300,000 troops in Vietnam during the civil war. later fought a serious little war with the Vietmanese. Seized Tibet, shelled and attacked Taiwan for over 20 years, and of course the Korean war. Yeah China is a peaceful paradise. Right now they are bullying the Phillipines and Japan.
Japan is rapidly building up its military. An increased U.S. presence may be a good thing. Australia has increasingly become involved in Asia and its trade with China is very important. keeping the Southern sea lanes open is very important

[Ya-ta Boy]

[quote="Nowhere Man"]

[rollo]

I would fear the super patriots of Japan and Russia more and of course India. China keeps pushing at India over the border dispute and I think there is a good chance of military action on that front in the next ten years . China's super nationalism mixed with the ethnic superiority message is similar to Nazi Germany's.

I agree with you about the U.S defense budget. Over militarization is a threat to the U.s. economy and also makes it too easy for the U.S. to rely on muscle instead of brains in situation which damages its prestige.

[Kuros]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[rollo]

Chinese demographics are scary. the 20 million unmarried young males. quite a bit has been written about this. Not wanting to get into sociology but that is a lot of testosterone and cannon fodder.

They may well have some kind of affirmative action for minorities in China but maybe the Uighars, the Tibetans and others don'.t think so much of the program. Basically the rule is if your not Han don'.t come knocking.

The U.S is still the balance in Asia. This might not last for long. I really do not see how China and India can co-exist, with dwindling resources, and Chinese provocation it is almost inevitable that there will be some sort of military conflict. They keep bullying and bullying and no one has called them on it YET! Japan has been pushed about as far as they will go I think. if China underestimates the Japanese they could get a very rude awakening.

The U.S Focusing on the region is a good signal to countries that they do not have to fear standing up to China alone. This could make Beijing reevaluate their conduct.

[Nowhere Man]

[rollo]

Really!! You ! think!the map published by the P.L.A. which show vast chunks of territory claimed by India as being Chinese, and the movement of Chinese troops to that border region is all peaceful and friendly. Golly gee. I suppose the Chinese warships buzzing and threatening Japanese shipping is just playful mischief.

You have the economy and the foreign policy confused. In fact as the Chinese economy contracts many think they are more dangerous.
Today in fact Hu told the navy to get ready to fight!!

U.S. actions in Afghanistan have nothing to do with Chinese aggression in Asia. The U.s. is being invited to take a more active role in the region.

[Kuros]

[rollo]

123 trillion amazing. what genius came up with that. China has so many problems that it will probably never advance much beyond what they have already achieved. which is an economy of about 4.5 trillion dollars. Aging, over population, loss of farm land, water problems. inequality between rich and poor. Hu said to George W. Bush while they were discussing some military issue. " Many days all that concerns me it the 200 million who still live in poverty and what to do about it". Their problems are massive. As much as I criticize their leader ship , I have to say that with the tremendous leap they have made it is a wonder that they are not in a worse shape. They went from an agraian, society average income 40 yUAN A MONTH With carts pulled by cows on the streets of Beijing to the second largest economy in the world. in 30 years. The problems are one of the reasons they are so aggressive, they need space and resources and are committed to getting them

[Nowhere Man]

[rollo]

Do border guards count. Chinese border guards shot at nepalese troops about two months ago.

Lets see, 50,s China invades Tibet, gets involved in the Korean conflict. 60's just a few flareups with India, one real shooting match. Shelled Taiwan territory every day for thirty years. Oh and 300,000 Chinese troops in Vietnam. 70's big shoot-em-up with Russia several times. nasty little border conflict with Vietnam. entered and seized east Turkamenstan.

Peaceful rise my ass!!

The housing bubble; it's far far worse than the U.
S.'s was . In Shangahi 40% of growth GDP was based on housing. Rent for a dump ofa place in Shanghai is about $2000 a month. In a city where average wages about $4000 a year. Chinese live with parents or ten to a single room with a tiny bathroom. It is unsustainable!!

[Captain Corea]