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northway
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| jonbowman88 wrote: |
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| The baby is alive from day 1, it's not until it is aborted that it is dead. It has absolutely nothing to do with sustainability. This idea that life begins when a baby can supported itself on it's own has no scientific merit at all whatsoever. It is nothing more than a made up idea to perpetuate the lie that the baby isn't alive. |
Pretty sure you're just trolling, but...
My appendix is alive.
A cow is alive.
Please justify an appendectomy.
Please justify eating beef. |
Your inability to differentiate between killing a person and an animal will not be responded to. |
But it's not unreasonable to say that the bag o' cells that is an early term human fetus isn't a human. |
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jonbowman88
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| jonbowman88 wrote: |
| eat_yeot wrote: |
| jonbowman88 wrote: |
| The baby is alive from day 1, it's not until it is aborted that it is dead. It has absolutely nothing to do with sustainability. This idea that life begins when a baby can supported itself on it's own has no scientific merit at all whatsoever. It is nothing more than a made up idea to perpetuate the lie that the baby isn't alive. |
Pretty sure you're just trolling, but...
My appendix is alive.
A cow is alive.
Please justify an appendectomy.
Please justify eating beef. |
Your inability to differentiate between killing a person and an animal will not be responded to. |
But it's not unreasonable to say that the bag o' cells that is an early term human fetus isn't a human. |
Which brings us back to my original statement. This lie being spread that the baby isn't a human in order to justify murder needs to stop. Calling the baby a fetus, "a bag o' cells", or an "indistinguishable mush of cells" is exactly what has been done in the past to justify unspeakable evils. The nazis did it with the Jews, Americans did it with the Africans, and we are doing it today with babies. It's a convient lie to get out of taking responsibility for your actions.
The idea that during the baby's growth at some mysterious point, that no one cam agree on, he or she magically becomes a human being is absurd. |
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eat_yeot
Joined: 11 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| jonbowman88 wrote: |
This lie being spread that a cow isn't human in order to justify murder needs to stop. Calling the cow nonhuman, or an animal is exactly what has been done in the past to justify unspeakable evils. The Nazis did it with the Jews, Americans did it with Africans, and we are doing it today with animals. It's a convenient lie to get out of taking responsibility for your actions.
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Fixed it for you.
Try this - take some sperm and egg and mix them up in a petri dish. Do you end up with a human? What happens if you leave the petri dish on the counter? Are you a murderer? |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I"m pretty sure the debate which has occured on this thread was EXACTLY what the troll--oops--OP was hoping for.  |
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declan74
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Nonsense. Do what's best for you and her, not the indistinguishable mush of cells that exist inside this chick's... wherever babies come from. Let's focus on the humans who already exist before we waste our time calling them murderers for not wanting to raise cells they would fail at raising. Murderer, no. Responsible, yes. But fools often mistake the two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqtcb66Yeyo |
......."indistinguishable mush of cells".....you stay classy sir and may God have mercy on you. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Dropping the idiotic pro-life rant that some have used on here (hint it is of NO USE TO THE OP)...abortion, if memory serves is only available for medical reasons in Korea. What you need to do OP is GET OFF an online forum populated by strangers and talk to a doctor (ya know a medical professional that can tell you what your options are).
Did you guys even take a pregnancy test by the way? |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Patrick-
Did you not notice? The OP hasn't responded ONCE to this entire thread, and there were some legitimate questions.
Like I've already said TWICE, this dude is most likely just sitting back enjoying the show.
If I'm wrong; I sincerely apologize.
I know-- I have too much time on my hands being finals week and all  |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Dropping the idiotic pro-life rant that some have used on here (hint it is of NO USE TO THE OP)...abortion, if memory serves is only available for medical reasons in Korea. What you need to do OP is GET OFF an online forum populated by strangers and talk to a doctor (ya know a medical professional that can tell you what your options are).
Did you guys even take a pregnancy test by the way? |
I think abortion is only available for medical reasons in the way that prostitution is illegal. |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nonsense. Do what's best for you and her, not the indistinguishable mush of cells that exist inside this chick's... wherever babies come from. Let's focus on the humans who already exist before we waste our time calling them murderers for not wanting to raise cells they would fail at raising. Murderer, no. Responsible, yes. But fools often mistake the two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqtcb66Yeyo |
......."indistinguishable mush of cells".....you stay classy sir and may God have mercy on you. |
Religious people  |
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jonbowman88
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Dropping the idiotic pro-life rant that some have used on here (hint it is of NO USE TO THE OP)...abortion, if memory serves is only available for medical reasons in Korea. What you need to do OP is GET OFF an online forum populated by strangers and talk to a doctor (ya know a medical professional that can tell you what your options are).
Did you guys even take a pregnancy test by the way? |
Pretty sure all of the idiocy was from the pro abortion nonsense |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think abortion is only available for medical reasons in the way that prostitution is illegal. |
I hadn't thought of that before. In this situation I'd sooner see a doctor and pay for professional care (even in Korea) than order some pills over the internet. I don't care how nice the people on the website are.
The OP hasn't come back because his thread is long on idiotic debates and short on advice. |
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kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope the OP's girlfriend was able to get that abortion. |
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eat_yeot
Joined: 11 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty sure all of the idiocy was from the pro abortion nonsense |
Sure, if logic and reasoning are not your thing. Which appears to be the case. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| No woman should have to go through an unwanted pregnancy and childbirth, followed by the abject misery of having a child they don't want. We aren't in the middle ages anymore for Christ's sake. Abortion is available here, but I don't know the channels you have to go through. |
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jonbowman88
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea
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| Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| No child should be killed because of two peoples irresponsibility. Are we still in the middle ages? |
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