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Students who think your teaching is wrong...
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they weren't adults, I'd say they were having a lot of fun seeing you get upset about their pronunciation. Maybe, that is all it is. Have you been particularly arrogant to them? You seem to have a very adversarial relationship with your students.

If you have a more friendly, relaxed environment with adult students, they are more likely to listen to you, even if you are wrong, though you certainly aren't on this.

Personally, I would move on. Pushing the issue is only going to make them lose face.

Good luck with that!
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Marc W



Joined: 04 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Students who think your teaching is wrong... Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Has anybody had this problem?


LOL!!

Yes, but as a student not as a teacher. And I very very much recognize it. Well as a student I never really expected my teacher to know everything anyway. May-be as a teacher you could be happy that a student is critical and thinks for him or herself. May-be you can just say that (English) language is not always logical. That it does not follow exact rules, like exact science. And that you can understand what the student thinks, but in this case there is an exception.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Explain that it is difficult to give the vowel sound its full value without altering the stress pattern of the word, and that vowels in non-stressed syllables are often reduced, to a schwa sound or some sound approximating to a schwa.

They will bow in confusion before your apparent godly omniscience.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as others have mentioned use the internet. or, a smartphone. maybe the students own smartphone? the ybm iphone dictionary definitely shows the phonetic difference and also provides the audio...
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bbunce



Joined: 28 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them they are write because you don't want to upset them or the parents even though it is retarded.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbunce wrote:
Tell them they are write because you don't want to upset them or the parents even though it is retarded.


Was this on purpose?

As others say, I would have mentioned the schwa and word stress. But dictionaries are a great idea. Might not have thought of it.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbunce wrote:
Tell them they are write because you don't want to upset them or the parents even though it is retarded.


Did you really mean wuh-ri-tae instead of ri-guh-huh-tuh?

At least "correct" is correct....
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theevilgenius



Joined: 10 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you given other examples to reinforce your argument with them e.g. bow and bow, row and row, Polish and polish.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatimes wrote:
Get some Korean words then.

For example "읽다", to read. It is spelled ilkda, but you don't say the "k". Make them explain why you don't say "ilk da".



Um. You don't actually speak Korean do you?
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, let them know they are free to pronounce the English language anyhow they want.

But that people in X part of the world pronounce it like this.

Then move on.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodge7 wrote:
Have they still not figured out, after 10 years of learning English probably that the letter "O" is the most versatile vowel in the alphabet? It can sound like an 'E' as in doctor. It can sound like an 'A' as in doctor, it can sound like 우, as in lose, AND it has its own sound as in open.

I think you had to point this out from the beginning though, teacher.


My students sometimes laugh because I don't say dactor, besketball and seturday
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good lord. Tell me people aren't pronouncing doctor as though it's dactor.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they called it Dak-Tuh
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jondepoer



Joined: 02 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only Korean who knows more English than you is your half-literate co-teacher. Proven fact.
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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Just ignore them and think of the money.


We have the correct answer.
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