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Discrimination against Asian-Americans in college admissions
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nate1983



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zdrav wrote:
nate1983 wrote:
Numbers, like 1550 vs. 1410 vs. 1100 can be a bit misleading. The inference you're intended to draw is that an equally adept Asian must work a lot harder than a white/black to see the same college admissions results.

The premise is admissions results regressed on race, conditional on ability, are significantly biased against Asians.

However, there's an inherent problem that a simple regression model wouldn't fix (you'd have to find a good instrumental variable - I passed my phd core exams in econometrics fwiw), and that's the fact that Asians, given the same ability/other factors as other races, will generally have higher SAT scores. This is true in a similar sense to whites vs. blacks - but Asians are the most extreme, as Asian parents will go to extreme measures, getting their kids tutors, not letting them out of the house until they've done X number of practice problems, that gives Asian students higher scores than other groups, given the same natural ability, etc. Schools know this, and it has served as the basis of support for affirmative action (white vs. black).

Simply put, if you take 100 representative Asians with a 1400 (old test), 100 whites, and 100 blacks, I think you'd find that the highest natural ability (IQ, college GPA, some sort of proxy) would be blacks, and the lowest would be Asians. I'm not trying to say this is true on an individual level, but I believe it's a fair assessment on the aggregate.


Just trying to discern your point here...

Asians are the least naturally gifted, yet hard work unnaturally rewards them with high SAT scores. College adcoms know this, so they shave off a few hundred points off an Asian applicant's SAT score? Blacks, on the other hand, are the most naturally gifted, yet difficult life circumstances unnaturally penalizes them with low SAT scores. College adcoms know this, so they add a few extra hundred points to a black applicant's SAT score. And whites are somewhere in the middle.

Is my analysis correct?


No, you're completely off. Someone with a background in math (I'm basically using Bayes' Rule here) or econ would immediately get my point. Try reading what I wrote again, maybe you missed the part about the 1400 SAT score.
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