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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:44 pm Post subject: do Koreans enjoy eating bones and shells? |
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What do Korean people have against filleting?
With the popularity of hamburgers and tonkatsu, I would think that Korean cooks might consider that people here enjoy eating meats that aren't full of bones.
I'm not suggesting something like boneless galbi... but is it really more pleasant (or efficient) to eat pieces of fish and fowl chock full of tiny, sharp bones? Or tiny shrimps or crabs which after being cooked are mostly just exoskeleton?
Is there some superstition surrounding this? Is it believed to be for nutritional benefit? |
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chrisinkorea2011
Joined: 16 Jan 2011
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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My mother eats softbones like in chicken. She was raised in Gwangju and my grandparents did the same. I however ABHOR it lol i think its really a culture thing? ive seen quite a few koreans munch and crunch on them, il eat them if they are smaller in like sam gyup sal lol. |
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swinewho
Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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You mean you can shovel it into your fat mouth even faster?  |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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This bothers me as well. I don't see the joy of eating fish when I have to constantly pick out the little bones or eating a meat stew that has more bones than meat.
I think it's because Koreans lived impoverished and had to make do with whatever they had and with little preparation during the Japanese Occupation and the Korean war. That same culture persists today. I've been to Korean joints in the US and they didn't serve the same boney stuff to Americans. Although, I did once have these little crabs that were fried and it was pretty good. The exoskeleton was crunchy. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, they even eat shrimp / prawns wit the full shells on, heck they even eat the heads.... And fish bones, bits of shell...
Just ruins the meal for me. There's a place that does great kalguksoo nearby choc full of clams and mussels but it takes me 25 minutes just to de-shell all the seafood and fish out all the shells. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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The Floating World wrote: |
Yeah, they even eat shrimp / prawns wit the full shells on, heck they even eat the heads.... And fish bones, bits of shell...
Just ruins the meal for me. There's a place that does great kalguksoo nearby choc full of clams and mussels but it takes me 25 minutes just to de-shell all the seafood and fish out all the shells. |
I'm okay with mussels and clams in the shell. Just hold it and pull. (although easier done with wooden chopsticks...) But I agree, fish bones and bits of shell... ugh.
I don't always dislike eating the head or shell of a shrimp. Cantonese salt and pepper shrimp is an example. But it's usually not as enjoyable as if it were removed. In the case of boiled shrimp, it's (to me) significantly less enjoyable.
So... I don't understand! :) |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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I find that fish in a lot of Korean foods is cooked so that the bones are soft enough to chew. Most grilled fish seems to be cooked so that the spine can be removed pretty easily.
The heads of shrimp and prawn add flavor to the broth. Again, the shells can be removed rather easily for the larger ones. For the smaller ones I don't mind crunching on the exoskeleton.
Even back home mussels and clams are just cooked shells and all. So much more efficient to cook them that way and have the eaters deal with the shells later. |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Location: Jongno
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm typically a "Korean apologist" who tries to see everything from their point of view, but I've never been able to contrive a legit excuse for this practice. It just doesn't make sense to me to leave the bones in fish. |
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adzee1
Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think meat with bones in stews is fine because the bone adds flavour to the stew and you can get the marrow out which is nice, but yeh fish bones are a bit nasty as are prawn shells. |
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Rutherford
Joined: 31 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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You are all a bunch of whining babies who were raised on North American processed food. Animals have bones, that's why there are bones in your meat.
You know what's more annoying than having to fish a fishbone out of your mouth? Listening to an American say "oh, I don't eat meat with bones in it".  |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Rutherford wrote: |
You are all a bunch of whining babies who were raised on North American processed food. Animals have bones, that's why there are bones in your meat.
You know what's more annoying than having to fish a fishbone out of your mouth? Listening to an American say "oh, I don't eat meat with bones in it".  |
When I spent my summers at my grandparents' mountain home, we went fishing at the several lakes there, and ate what we caught (if the fish were large enough.) Grandma filleted the fish. No bones!
When mom bought fresh shrimp from the market, she de-veined it (often making me help) and removed the legs and tails before cooking them. We liked the heads, though.
We're not talking frozen fish fingers, here. We had fresh-caught seafood, yet didn't have bones or shells in our food.
Yes, to most it's a minor annoyance, but it could also be dangerous. |
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Triban

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Location: Suwon Station
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
Rutherford wrote: |
You are all a bunch of whining babies who were raised on North American processed food. Animals have bones, that's why there are bones in your meat.
You know what's more annoying than having to fish a fishbone out of your mouth? Listening to an American say "oh, I don't eat meat with bones in it".  |
When I spent my summers at my grandparents' mountain home, we went fishing at the several lakes there, and ate what we caught (if the fish were large enough.) Grandma filleted the fish. No bones!
When mom bought fresh shrimp from the market, she de-veined it (often making me help) and removed the legs and tails before cooking them. We liked the heads, though.
We're not talking frozen fish fingers, here. We had fresh-caught seafood, yet didn't have bones or shells in our food.
Yes, to most it's a minor annoyance, but it could also be dangerous. |
NYC Gal ignore this man, he is a grade-A douche just trying to blame it on the "Americans" again.
Yes I don't enjoy eating fish with bones in them, no one does. And yes, it can be VERY dangerous.
Hi, in America I caught my own fish and de-boned/gutted them by hand myself but I suppose that makes me a horrible person, priviledged American, and whiner. Buying shrimp, I de-vein and shell them. So, have you EVER done ANY of this yourself?
As for clam/oyster stews, there should be NO SHELLS. The soup/stew is much less gratifying when you have to literally take them out of the shell before you can eat them...you either eat them separate from the soup, which is contrary to what it is supposed to be, or de-shell everything then dump it BACK into the soup...which is stupid. Now an oyster ROAST is different, those are made to be eaten from the shell, with an oyster KNIFE.
Not filleting or de-shelling in these cases are simple laziness on the chef's part. They know the cuisine is better if they do so, but they simply DGAF.
Tell me, do you eat to survive or eat for pleasure? Does taking 30 minutes to pick bones/shells from your edible portions increase or decrease your happiness?
I rest my case. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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As for clam/oyster stews, there should be NO SHELLS. The soup/stew is much less gratifying when you have to literally take them out of the shell before you can eat them...you either eat them separate from the soup, which is contrary to what it is supposed to be, or de-shell everything then dump it BACK into the soup...which is stupid. |
Thank you. There is at least one other sane poster on dave's...
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Rutherford wrote: |
You are all a bunch of whining babies who were raised on North American processed food. Animals have bones, that's why there are bones in your meat.
You know what's more annoying than having to fish a fishbone out of your mouth? Listening to an American say "oh, I don't eat meat with bones in it".  |
Hear, hear... too many p******* on this board. Sack up already, we're all adults now. wah wah wah, back home, back home, you know back home.... wahhhh |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Most Chefs will tell you leaving the bones/shell on food helps give more flavor.
I agree with them.
Seems like the OP is whinging with a "First World" problem. |
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