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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:25 am Post subject: |
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The weather in Korea at this time of year is usually considerably colder than it has been over the past week or so.
I'm a bit afraid that the cold might come to Korea next month with a vengeance, and the Korean government is afraid of that, too, and the massive power shortages that could occur if too many people crank up their electric heaters. |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Adventurer: If you go to any Emart or HomePlus, they'll have a section with weather stripping and sealant. |
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globalgourmand
Joined: 11 May 2011
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know how to use the reservation/timer setting on the Kiturami CTR-5700?
A version of this one: http://www.nanokem.co.kr/english/products/products_view_m7s6.php
I don't really understand these two reservation labels: 예약가동 and 예약정지. My best impression is that 예약가동 means that the boiler operation in minutes and 예약정지 means boiler suspension in hours?
I can see there is a minute and hour setting, but what the heck does it mean? Will it will go ON in that many minutes and OFF in that many hours; or it will go ON for that many minutes and OFF for that many hours; or ON for that many minutes every so many hours? Which is it?
Also... I can't really understand the intention of the different season settings beyond assuming that if its on "Summer" it will not run the ondol whatsoever. Any insight to the season settings? |
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globalgourmand
Joined: 11 May 2011
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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For the record I have decoded and figured out this entire unit and organized and English language user's cheat sheet/guide for my own reference and the benefit of future GETs.
My previous GET was very thoughtful and put together and entire binder of helpful information before she departed. It had everything to what to do with compost and recycling, where the local English-speaking doctors are in my neighborhood, how much a taxi would cost to the train station, how to get to school, what the lunch situation is at my school, etc, etc, etc. I will now add my thermostat guide (among other things I've accumulated) to her guide and leave if for the next GET who takes my place.
If you are also interested in the .doc of this guide. PM me your email and I will send it. |
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rdb13
Joined: 06 Dec 2011
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Can you PM me the user guide for the Kiturami CTR 5700. I can't for the life of me figure out how to use it!
Thanks in advance!
(I can't send pms yet, I haven't reached the 25 minimum post requirement...) |
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globalgourmand
Joined: 11 May 2011
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Of course! But apparently I haven't yet the 25-post requirement either! Send an email to ttturner at gmail dot com. And I'll forward you my doc. |
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globalgourmand
Joined: 11 May 2011
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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People continue to request my Kiturami guide. Its still available if people want to email me. I don't mind.
But IS there a way to post .docs into a thread? It would be nice to not have to respond to the individual emails. Still, feel free. |
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Liancourtwhat
Joined: 17 Nov 2013
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Is the guide still available? I was looking for directions for my CTR 5700, but this post is a few years old. |
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faeriehazel
Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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It's 문풍지 - the stuff you put on between the door edge and the frame so wind doesn't leak in. You can also get film for your windows to improve your insulation - 방풍비닐.
We live in a place with very high ceilings. Our first month here (in January) our heating bill was over 200 bucks. It was a huge shock since our last place was tiny, and the highest heating bill we ever got was around 100. We managed to cut our bill by almost half by getting thick curtains, insulation strips, and keeping the room temp at about 18-20C.
Instead of turning your heating off when you're out, there should be a setting called 외출. If you put it at this setting, the heating will burn very low but not turn itself off completely. This also helps keep the pipes from possibly freezing and bursting during the very cold months. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Heating advice |
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espo wrote: |
So its that time of year when gas bills start getting painful.
I usually turn my ondol on in the morning and evening and turn it off when im out.
However a friend told me its works out to be more economic to leave it on a set temperature 24 hrs a day....can anyone confirm or deny??
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It depends on your system. Is it a modern and energy efficient one in a well built newer insulated building? I did that last January for a time because of a cold snap making me worry about pipes freezing and my bill was a little cheaper than the previous January. Gas came on to maintain a temperature and went off for a long time once that temperature was sensed.
If it's an old building with a 30 year plus heating system in an unisulated building, I would seriously doubt that. I have often found some Korean advice to be useless as they usually never tell you any details. IE He lives in the most luxurious apartment in Gangnam, while you live in a slummy old one room built during the Korean war by north soldiers to house their troops. With 50 troops to a room, there was no need for efficient heating. Body heat, cuddling, and holding hands were enough. But, I digress...
If you live in an old building with the heat running 24/7, it means you will pay with your life to pay that energy bill next month. Any time a Korean gives you advice, find out the context in which they are giving that advice. Something they never think of that when giving it out. |
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maximmm
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I would say that it all very much depends on the place you live in - the current place I live in is cheap - it's just as big as the previous officetels, but the utility cost is around 3 times less. Also, the heating at the current place works, whereas in the previous places, you had to pay 300K won per month and even at that cost, the ondol would be just about lukewarm even during the coldest days.
Another thing to note - at the previous officetels, even if you weren't home for a month, you'd still have to pay the same exact amount for utilities as the other tenants in apartments of similar size - the reason being is that they utilized some sort of shared payment system. So the end result was, you paid 300K won a month for utilities that barely functioned (only during winter - AC did not have such problems during summer), and you had to pay this amount even if you were away for a few months. It's an interesting system that combines communism and capitalism, strips off all of the good bits from each system, leaving all the crappy ones and viola.
The good thing is, not every officetel operates the same way - just a vast majority.
Aside from that , someone suggested getting 문풍지 to insulate windows and doors - I second that. Lack of proper insulation in Korean buildings is rather common. |
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maximmm
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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maximmm wrote: |
I would say that it all very much depends on the place you live in - the current place I live in is cheap - it's just as big as the previous officetels, but the utility cost is around 3 times less. Also, the heating at the current place works, whereas in the previous places, you had to pay 300K won per month and even at that cost, the ondol would be just about lukewarm even during the coldest days.
Another thing to note - at the previous officetels, even if you weren't home for a month, you'd still have to pay the same exact amount for utilities as the other tenants in apartments of similar size - the reason being is that they utilized some sort of shared payment system. So the end result was, you paid 300K won a month for utilities that barely functioned (only during winter - AC did not have such problems during summer), and you had to pay this amount even if you were away for a few months. It's an interesting system that combines communism and capitalism, strips off all of the good bits from each system, leaving all the crappy ones and viola.
The good thing is, not every officetel operates the same way - just a vast majority.
Aside from that , someone suggested getting 문풍지 to insulate windows and doors - I second that. Lack of proper insulation in Korean buildings is rather common. |
Those office tel setups are common in older buildings. Efficiency was well lacking, along with good building sense. But, newer buildings shouldn't have this problem.
There are new officetels just built in my area. So, I went to a showroom out of curiosity and they said each unit has it's own utilities and bills. I know when I was out in the country some apartments that were over 20 years old had a bbig boiler in the basement and it was used to heat all the apartments at once. There were no individual heating. New apartments; no way. Strange system they had.
As I already mentioned about my own space, it's about 5 years old. My old place in the country was prob 30 years old and I paid more for heating. It was barely warm and always kind of cold due to no insulation. New place, no problems and no mold ever. Toasty warm with very little gas used. Newer buildings do seem to have learned modern western building methods, unless the owner is $%^& with no conscience who cut corners.
I'd say avoid buildings here more than 5 years old if you want to avoid the whole communist BS. Never ever have a talk with older Koreans about it either as you'd might as well go and talk to a brick wall. They won't get it or understand what you say. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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matthews_world wrote: |
I've heard it where Koreans typically keep their apartments at 20-22C to save on utilities.
Don't by those cheap Chinese heating fans with the coils. They burn a lot of electricity, often fail, and will cause a short and catch fire.
I got a portable electric radiator on wheels. It sits about 2.5 feet high and has adjustable temperature controls on the side. It even has a timer where I can set it to turn on automatically but the instructions are in Korean and I just turn it on and off when too cold. Mine cost me 150,000 at Hi-Mart as features and price vary.
I haven't got an electric bill yet since I've started using it but we'll see how that goes. |
No, they do not. They keep their apartments at 28 to 30 degrees in winter. A few might go down to 26 degrees, while a few more may be into the 30's. They love being toasty hot (notice I didn't use warm?). Many Korean co teachers have told me this. I tell them I like 16 to 18 degrees for sleeping and they all go in jaw dropping shock. I may do 20 to 22 on a very cold winter day when home, but that's pushing it. Koreans set it at 30 and then open the windows if it gets too hot. For a country that was poor, until recently, they have some strange energy habits wasting tons of money like that. But, it's just their thing, I guess.
If you are getting a unit, for heating, I'd use a portable electric radiator on wheels or a heating fan. Fan, not lamp. It blows hot air into the room. My second year in the old crappy apartment, I used one of these and felt warmer. But electric bill was slightly more than the gas bill from previous winter in that place. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: |
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My apartment wasn't particularly insulated. It was like a concrete bunker that was made attractive in the interior and exterior. It was also Ondal and was heated with heating oil. I had to sleep on the floor with a heavy quilt. I generally kept the temperature at 52 F to save heating oil. That was the coldest I could tolerate. |
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