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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Most Chefs will tell you leaving the bones/shell on food helps give more flavor.
I agree with them.
Seems like the OP is whinging with a "First World" problem. |
Having an opinion of how one likes his/her food isn't whining.
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I find that fish in a lot of Korean foods is cooked so that the bones are soft enough to chew. Most grilled fish seems to be cooked so that the spine can be removed pretty easily. |
Depends on the fish. Some fish the bones are chewable, some the bones are big enough to easily pick out. Some are small and hard enough to stab you in the throat on its way down. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Most Chefs will tell you leaving the bones/shell on food helps give more flavor.
I agree with them.
Seems like the OP is whinging with a "First World" problem. |
Yet I've eaten in resaurants with mitchellin stars in London, Madrid, Paris and Oregon (honest) and fish and seafood dishes don't com with bones and bits of shell.
Japanese are rated the world over for their fishdishes, same same.
And is Korean food rated around the world ouside the K-diaspora? No. In fact it is derided by 'first world' chefs.
Sounds like you have a third world problem, not we have a first world problem! |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Yet I've eaten in resaurants with mitchellin stars in London, Madrid, Paris and Oregon (honest) and fish and seafood dishes don't com with bones and bits of shell.
Japanese are rated the world over for their fishdishes, same same.
And is Korean food rated around the world ouside the K-diaspora? No. In fact it is derided by 'first world' chefs.
Sounds like you have a third world problem, not we have a first world problem! |
Depends where you eat and what you order. Of course if you're eating at Michellin star restaurants you'll probably get only filleted fish on the menu but if you're eating at a French bistro or an Italian Trattoria, you'll get bones in your fish stew or shells in your mussels mouniere. The kind of people who would complain about this kind of thing do come across as a bit cossetted |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
Most Chefs will tell you leaving the bones/shell on food helps give more flavor.
I agree with them.
Seems like the OP is whinging with a "First World" problem. |
Yet I've eaten in resaurants with mitchellin stars in London, Madrid, Paris and Oregon (honest) and fish and seafood dishes don't com with bones and bits of shell.
Japanese are rated the world over for their fishdishes, same same.
And is Korean food rated around the world ouside the K-diaspora? No. In fact it is derided by 'first world' chefs.
Sounds like you have a third world problem, not we have a first world problem! |
Simple solution:
DON'T EAT KOREAN FOOD.
Would you like some French Cries with your Waaahbuger?
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
Most Chefs will tell you leaving the bones/shell on food helps give more flavor.
I agree with them.
Seems like the OP is whinging with a "First World" problem. |
Having an opinion of how one likes his/her food isn't whining.
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it is if a person thinks that their opinion is the only viable one, which is what this thread seems to be attracting a lot of.
i don't particularly care for bones in my grub as i hoover it down in most cases, but the idiots who go on and on about how food absolutely shouldn't have bones have a very sad disconnection with the things that they eat. |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| The Floating World wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
Most Chefs will tell you leaving the bones/shell on food helps give more flavor.
I agree with them.
Seems like the OP is whinging with a "First World" problem. |
Yet I've eaten in resaurants with mitchellin stars in London, Madrid, Paris and Oregon (honest) and fish and seafood dishes don't com with bones and bits of shell.
Japanese are rated the world over for their fishdishes, same same.
And is Korean food rated around the world ouside the K-diaspora? No. In fact it is derided by 'first world' chefs.
Sounds like you have a third world problem, not we have a first world problem! |
Simple solution:
DON'T EAT KOREAN FOOD.
Would you like some French Cries with your Waaahbuger? |
Oh sorry, I best regurgitate the sundooboo chigae I had for lunch and the chongook jjang I had for dinner into your TROLL bucket then. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:55 am Post subject: |
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I expect there to be shells when I order mussels. I LIKE the small, soft spine when I get canned sardines. Picking out clams from dwenjang jjigae isn't a chore.
I just prefer most fish filleted and my shrimp cleaned. I don't want to see a line of poo (unless I'm doing the cooking and cleaning it myself before it goes into the dish itself.) Can I eat it if it hasn't been prepared to my specific preference? Of course. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
I expect there to be shells when I order mussels. I LIKE the small, soft spine when I get canned sardines. Picking out clams from dwenjang jjigae isn't a chore.
I just prefer most fish filleted and my shrimp cleaned. I don't want to see a line of poo (unless I'm doing the cooking and cleaning it myself before it goes into the dish itself.) Can I eat it if it hasn't been prepared to my specific preference? Of course. |
I don't personally care much whether or not small sea creatures are cleaned out before eating them. Nor if food has been prepared to my exact preference. But when 닭갈비 or little fish pieces, for example, are full of bones, the effort and time required for each little bit of tasteful, edible food is enough that I'd rather not even bother. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Oh sorry, I best regurgitate the sundooboo chigae I had for lunch and the chongook jjang I had for dinner into your TROLL bucket then. |
순두부찌개 can have shrimp and clams with their shells in it. OH NO!!! ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!
천국장 can have clams with their shells too. OH THE HUMANITY!!!
How dare these Koreans serve food in this manner!
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:26 am Post subject: |
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I've gotten pretty deft at unzipping fish spines with chopsticks, though not perfectly every time. You can simply spit out stray bones on your tray & its cool.
Fearing fishbones as dangerous is a bit of an overreaction. If kindergarten kids can deal with bony fish (& they do here) surely adult westerners arent going to keel over dead. |
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TellyRules986
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| I don't like the fish here either. I agree that spending more time on the bones takes away from the meal. It's funny how apparently not liking bones in fish gets such a strong negative reaction around here? |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I grew up eating foods with the bones left in. Fish bones aren't really that big of a hassle if you know how to remove them properly or if the fish is fried in which case the meat usually just falls away from the bone. Poultry and Beef is even easier, I've never had a problem eating chicken or beef around the bone. As for in stews, yeah fish can get annoying, but chicken or beef you can just remove from the stew, place on your rice and eat around the bones. Like it was stated, I prefer having bones left it in stews because it adds flavor.
Plus think of it this way, it slows you down while you are eating, giving your body more time to digest your food, preventing you from over-eating. |
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pkang0202

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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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The only time I'm particularly bothered is when it's something like 감자탕 and there are tons of little flecks of bone/cartilage hiding in it. I'll be noshing on a mouthful and CRUNCH! As this happens throughout the meal, practically every other bite, I end up not enjoying the food.
Grilled fish, there's a technique to getting the meat away from most of the bones.
Otherwise, meh, the bones in everything shocked me when I first got here but that was a long time ago. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The Floating World wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
Most Chefs will tell you leaving the bones/shell on food helps give more flavor.
I agree with them.
Seems like the OP is whinging with a "First World" problem. |
Yet I've eaten in resaurants with mitchellin stars in London, Madrid, Paris and Oregon (honest) and fish and seafood dishes don't com with bones and bits of shell.
Japanese are rated the world over for their fishdishes, same same.
And is Korean food rated around the world ouside the K-diaspora? No. In fact it is derided by 'first world' chefs.
Sounds like you have a third world problem, not we have a first world problem! |
Speaking of troll buckets, that's some pretty heavy trolling right there. |
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